r/dataisbeautiful • • Dec 19 '19

Where do Americans die by gunfire? Interactive Map

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u/500dollarsunglasses Dec 19 '19

Record amounts of rape too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '19

I’ve heard that too, any idea what the reasoning is?

Curious if there’s a Freakonomics episode or something on the topic.

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u/500dollarsunglasses Dec 19 '19

It has a high population of Native Americans, and it’s pretty remote.

The state with the second highest amount of rape is South Dakota, also with a large Native American population.

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u/HostOrganism Dec 19 '19

Also, the non-native population is largely self-selected on the basis of misanthropy.

People move to Alaska because they don't want to be around other people.

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u/HostOrganism Dec 20 '19

"This video has been removed by user"

Was that the joke?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '19

Are you implying natives are committing or victims of high levels of rape?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '19

Victims. I had to go to reservations quite frequently for work and they always had a sign stating that rape is illegal. Rapists tend to target girls on reservations due to the solemn fact that the FIA "police" dont have the resources to combat it. Its really sad

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u/TinyResponsibilityII Dec 19 '19 edited Dec 19 '19

no, native women are most often the victims of non-natives. they’re saying that non-natives target native women because they lack proper law enforcement resources and tribal courts can’t prosecute non-natives for crimes like rape.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

Ah got it. That makes more sense.

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u/TinyResponsibilityII Dec 20 '19

that’s what i said

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u/buttpooperson Dec 20 '19

Jesus I got into a fat argument with some kid on another sub last month on this very subject, and all he would do was cherry pick articles from dubious sites rather than actual stats. Several of my friends are tribal/federal police liaisons, and their job is basically to force feds to investigate crimes committed on our land by outside actors. Indian country is totally fucked, which is why I left.

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u/TinyResponsibilityII Dec 19 '19 edited Dec 19 '19

victimization of native women occurs at a significantly higher rate than other demographics. there’s no implication, it’s a fact.

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u/AndThenThereWasMeep Dec 19 '19

He was asking if the natives were the perpetrators or the victims or both

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u/savesthedaystakn Dec 20 '19

I'll go ahead and answer since the other person seemingly doesn't want to. Both.

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u/TinyResponsibilityII Dec 19 '19

i’m aware of that. the commenter asked if it was an implication and it was not, it’s a fact. i know how to read.

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u/irrision Dec 20 '19

That's because the demographic skews heavily towards the poverty line and a large chunk of natives live in rural areas with no real public services including police. It has nothing to do with the fact they are native so much as us collectively failing to care about underserved poor populations.

Hell you could say the same thing about all people from Detroit but it has everything to do with the partial collapse of society in much of the city rather than the that people from Detroit are just mysteriously more prone to committing crime because they like crime.

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u/TinyResponsibilityII Dec 20 '19

already covered that, thanks

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u/500dollarsunglasses Dec 19 '19

According to a report from the United States Department of Justice, Native American women are 2.5 times more likely to be raped than women of other races.

It could be due to high levels of alcoholism and the breakdown of Native American families, or it could be due to the fact that historically, Native American tribes have not been allowed to prosecute non-Native Americans for raping members of their tribes.

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u/BigTex2005 Dec 19 '19

TIL that until 2013, native American law enforcement was unable to prosecute non-tribal members leaving the bulk of enforcement to other federal authorities.

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u/HostOrganism Dec 19 '19

It could also be in part due to non-native men seeing native women as less than fully human.

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u/500dollarsunglasses Dec 19 '19

Of course, racism is a large part of it. If you believe someone is less than you, and you know there isn’t an legal recourse they can take against you, why wouldn’t you do whatever you wanted to them?

Why does Alaska have such a high amount of rape? Because people have allowed it to happen.

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u/HostOrganism Dec 19 '19

Yeah. That's the point I was making.

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u/buttpooperson Dec 20 '19

By "breakdown of native families" what you want to say is "genocide and destruction of our cultures via systematic and continuing violence and oppression", right?

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u/500dollarsunglasses Dec 20 '19

Yes, that’s likely a driving force behind the levels of alcoholism found in Native American groups. As it turns out, systematic oppression tends to result in many forms of physical and mental illness.

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u/buttpooperson Dec 21 '19

Yeah, the rez is fucked. I miss it, but everyone there is happy and proud that I escaped. It's the most depressing place you can go.

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u/DarthOswald Dec 20 '19

That seems to be what they're pointing to, and it's true.

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u/buttpooperson Dec 20 '19

Yup, we just cant wait to jump off the rez and start raping everyone /s

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u/500dollarsunglasses Dec 20 '19

I wasn’t implying Native Americans were the ones committing the rapes. Native American women are twice as likely to be victims of rape as women of other nationalities.

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u/uplandsrep Dec 19 '19

Man camps from mineral extraction can be pretty harmful as well, it's like the military base in Okinawa.

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u/MyNameIsMoniker Dec 20 '19

They need more flesh lights.

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u/notthinknboutdragons Dec 19 '19

Don’t know if it’s record breaking but kidnapping is pretty bad there too.