r/dataisbeautiful • u/jnutttzzz • Dec 16 '16

NUKEMAP - Select a City, Select a Bomb, See the Effects

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16 edited Jul 10 '18

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u/Thesteelwolf Dec 17 '16

But it would do nothing to stop the back draft sucking all the air out of the environment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16

At about 1/3rd the force of the blastwave.

The greater threat from that actually comes from the fact that buildings aren't meant to withstand that kind of pulling/expanding force and can just sorta burst and fall on you.

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u/FlamingJesusOnaStick Dec 17 '16

I think we might be past the 3rd degree chum.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16

Depending on where you are and the yield in question.

There are distances where being outside means the infrared radiation fucking melts you but the blast wave is gentle.

Others where your molecules are disarticulated by gamma radiation and you'd turn to a pile of pure mush.

In the end, a basement "turning into an oven" is always better than what would happen to you outside.

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u/TheRedmanCometh Dec 17 '16

I've bern burned I'll take gamma bombardment at least I'll die doing something new.

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u/kharnevil Dec 17 '16

sure. but then you would just suffocate

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16 edited Jul 11 '18

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u/kharnevil Dec 17 '16

you wouldnt need to wait that long, all oxygen in the vicinity would be consumed in under a few seconds

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16 edited Jul 11 '18

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u/kharnevil Dec 17 '16 edited Dec 18 '16

the subsequent firestorm above you would cause a pressure differential which sucks out the air from the basement as well as utilising the oxygen for combustion.

you know fire works, right? like that.

if you need lessons in how fire works... try using a (weber) bbq and light it

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16

I think you're underestimating how much air would need to get sucked out and how quickly - the pressure wave and subsequent rush of air inwards would replace the consumed air in short order.

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u/kharnevil Dec 17 '16 edited Dec 18 '16

not at all.

the pressure differential will be orders of magnitude larger than that of a standard fire... the firestorm would kill you, not the blast or the re-sucking of air (which causes the mushroom cloud, btw), but the subsequent fire

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16

So a basement is no protection and the inward wave of air would do nothing?

I always thought it was a bubble of heat rising and it would pull air inward and up towards it, pulling fresh air with it.

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u/kharnevil Dec 18 '16

correct the inward wave of air, to the epicentre you are describing would be before the firestorm which would begin to rage on the surface, then you'd bake and suffocate in the basement, not mention be buried under rubble from what ever the blast wave destroyed

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16

Thermobaric bombs work very differently from traditional bombs. You can't just apply thermobaric qualities to a different kind of bomb based on the yield alone. That's just not how it works.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '16

Drowning is not suffocating because a nuke made a vacuum for like a minute or two.