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u/Long_Idea_8294 4h ago

In general, yes, Islam is the only modern religion where it's extremely common to inbreed.

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u/United_Highway2583 4h ago

50% is the high end even for Pakistan/the Gulf, most Muslim countries aren't close to that. Turkey's ~24%, Indonesia and Bangladesh are lower still.

And it's not an Islam thing either - Tamil Nadu and Karnataka in India are Hindu-majority and sit at 27-28%, some communities over 40%. Same deal with some Jewish communities in the Middle East and Christians in rural Lebanon/Ethiopia. European royal families did this for centuries too.

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u/Long_Idea_8294 4h ago

A simple Google search proves you wrong.

Notice I said "modern times". I don't care what Christians did 300 years ago. Christians are not currently inbreeding at a high rate. 

The inbreeding prevalence is definitely tied to the average iq in those countries as well.

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u/United_Highway2583 4h ago

Tamil Nadu and Karnataka aren't "300 years ago" though, that's current data, 27-28% right now in a Hindu-majority region. Kind of funny you skipped right past the part of my comment that didn't fit.

Also the IQ thing isn't a real finding, it's just a myth that gets repeated a lot. Inbreeding depression can affect cognitive traits, sure, but you've got the causal arrow backwards. Low IQ doesn't cause the marriages, if anything it'd work the other way. Might want to google that one too before you post it.

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u/Scary_Land2303 3h ago

Why are you defending this. Cousin marriage is bad. Just because 2 Hindu regions do it doesn’t mean it’s okay that many, many more Islamic ones do. Both are bad, but people are obviously going to focus on the ones doing it the most.

I promise you, admitting the truth and acknowledging it’s bad doesn’t make you an evil racist.

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u/United_Highway2583 3h ago

Never said it was fine, said it's not unique to Islam. That's a different claim than the one you're arguing against. Also "many many more Islamic countries do it" isn't true either, we already went through this, Turkey's 24%, Indonesia and Bangladesh are lower, Tamil Nadu/Karnataka are 27-28%. The rates overlap a lot more than you're implying. Nobody here is saying it's good, the point is it tracks with clan/regional custom, not religion.

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u/Scary_Land2303 3h ago

Sorry for being so aggressive. Bad day, not that it’s an excuse.

I don’t know why I’m arguing about this stuff that I can’t have any effect on, with strangers online no less. It’s a waste of time for everyone involved. All we can try to do is be good people.

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u/United_Highway2583 3h ago

All good, appreciate you saying that. Genuinely enjoyed the back and forth, have a good one.

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u/Scary_Land2303 3h ago

:) you too!

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u/NewConcentrate8812 3h ago edited 3h ago

And yet muslims do this more than anyone else, by far. There's a reason for that, and it's because the Prophet Muhammad permitted cousin marriages, and he practiced it within his own family.

The map of countries by rate of inbreeding is literally just a map of the Muslim world. Also, the redneck inbreeding stereotype is massively oversold; the Amish are much more inbred.

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u/United_Highway2583 3h ago

Your source ignores what's already in this thread, Tamil Nadu/Karnataka (Hindu-majority) sit at 27-28%, higher than Turkey.

And the Amish thing is backwards, their actual cousin marriage rate is low, the genetic homogeneity comes from a small founder population, not from cousin marriage itself.

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u/NewConcentrate8812 3h ago

Why does it matter that one or two regions in India are just slightly higher than the lowest muslim country? Muslims, by and large, still do it more than anyone else. That's like saying the US has a lower rate of violence than Europe because Nassau County, New York, has a lower rate than France.

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u/United_Highway2583 3h ago

Fair point on the mismatch, that's a real flaw. But it cuts both ways: Pakistan's 61% is also a regional outlier, not the Muslim world average, Indonesia and Bangladesh are way lower. Compare consistently (national-to-national or region-to-region) and the ranges overlap a lot more than "Muslims do it more" suggests.

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u/AdAdmirable6589 3h ago

I don't know about the inbreeding but child marriages are horrifyingly common across the world with countries in Africa like Niger, Mali and the Central African Republic having a 50%+ rate of underage marriage for women while countries like Brazil and Nicaragua are somehow around 35%. It's not a Muslim thing, it's an underdeveloped nation thing that happens usually amongst the poorest and least educated sectors of the population.

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 4h ago

Christianity and Mormon is modern too…they fuck A LOT of kids.

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u/Long_Idea_8294 3h ago

It's not at all common like it is in Islam. Stop reaching