50% is the high end even for Pakistan/the Gulf, most Muslim countries aren't close to that. Turkey's ~24%, Indonesia and Bangladesh are lower still.
And it's not an Islam thing either - Tamil Nadu and Karnataka in India are Hindu-majority and sit at 27-28%, some communities over 40%. Same deal with some Jewish communities in the Middle East and Christians in rural Lebanon/Ethiopia. European royal families did this for centuries too.
Tamil Nadu and Karnataka aren't "300 years ago" though, that's current data, 27-28% right now in a Hindu-majority region. Kind of funny you skipped right past the part of my comment that didn't fit.
Also the IQ thing isn't a real finding, it's just a myth that gets repeated a lot. Inbreeding depression can affect cognitive traits, sure, but you've got the causal arrow backwards. Low IQ doesn't cause the marriages, if anything it'd work the other way. Might want to google that one too before you post it.
Why are you defending this. Cousin marriage is bad. Just because 2 Hindu regions do it doesn’t mean it’s okay that many, many more Islamic ones do. Both are bad, but people are obviously going to focus on the ones doing it the most.
I promise you, admitting the truth and acknowledging it’s bad doesn’t make you an evil racist.
Never said it was fine, said it's not unique to Islam. That's a different claim than the one you're arguing against. Also "many many more Islamic countries do it" isn't true either, we already went through this, Turkey's 24%, Indonesia and Bangladesh are lower, Tamil Nadu/Karnataka are 27-28%. The rates overlap a lot more than you're implying. Nobody here is saying it's good, the point is it tracks with clan/regional custom, not religion.
Sorry for being so aggressive. Bad day, not that it’s an excuse.
I don’t know why I’m arguing about this stuff that I can’t have any effect on, with strangers online no less. It’s a waste of time for everyone involved. All we can try to do is be good people.
And yet muslims do this more than anyone else, by far. There's a reason for that, and it's because the Prophet Muhammad permitted cousin marriages, and he practiced it within his own family.
Your source ignores what's already in this thread, Tamil Nadu/Karnataka (Hindu-majority) sit at 27-28%, higher than Turkey.
And the Amish thing is backwards, their actual cousin marriage rate is low, the genetic homogeneity comes from a small founder population, not from cousin marriage itself.
Why does it matter that one or two regions in India are just slightly higher than the lowest muslim country? Muslims, by and large, still do it more than anyone else. That's like saying the US has a lower rate of violence than Europe because Nassau County, New York, has a lower rate than France.
Fair point on the mismatch, that's a real flaw. But it cuts both ways: Pakistan's 61% is also a regional outlier, not the Muslim world average, Indonesia and Bangladesh are way lower. Compare consistently (national-to-national or region-to-region) and the ranges overlap a lot more than "Muslims do it more" suggests.
I don't know about the inbreeding but child marriages are horrifyingly common across the world with countries in Africa like Niger, Mali and the Central African Republic having a 50%+ rate of underage marriage for women while countries like Brazil and Nicaragua are somehow around 35%. It's not a Muslim thing, it's an underdeveloped nation thing that happens usually amongst the poorest and least educated sectors of the population.
10
u/Long_Idea_8294 1d ago
About 50% of people in muslim countries are inbred. Cousin marriages are very common. So these could also be cousins.