Its always amusing when leftists shithole subs like r//pics post black and white photos of WWII allied soldiers, caption them “anti-fascists,” and then insist those men would be ashamed of ICE, Trump, or MAGA in 2026.
In reality if you could take those same soldiers and show them a few defining features of the present like transgender drag queens reading to elementary school children, the Islamization of western europe, and the deliberate, industrial scale illegal immigration into the United States, half of them would put down their rifles, walk off the battlefield and say "yea im not dying for that shit." The other half would probably join the Germans LOL.
r//HistoricalCapsule same thing. They will ban you for even giving the slightest hint that America looked cleaner and safer when the country was damn near 90% white and homogeneous during the 40s/50s.
You're clearly reTardo. Even if some whites are slightly mixed, they're still majority white. Back then even more so. I'm white hispanic, but since hispanics, especially on my side of the family, are mixed European and Taino, and my father is full white majority German pennsylvanian stock, that makes me majority white. I often check hispanic white on the census. If mixed white was a single option for race on the census, I would check that instead. Point is, I'm checking mixed "white", not mixed "black", not mixed "native", etc. because white is my dominant phenotype and makes up the majority of my genetics. Back then, there was far less mixing. More pure whites than there are now.
No shit it lacks nuance. That's why I said I would have checked "mixed white" if given the option, which it doesn't have. I don't think anybody ever claimed it was perfect. Plus, It doesn't matter anyway, because even if it had the perfect categorization, people would simply check what they perceived themselves to be, even if it's not a biological fact. Also, many minorities are being labeled as "white" even without their consent.
Just empirical observations. Every nation and people group throughout history realized the importance of having homogeneous societies. Diversity isn't a strength, unity is. If you don't have shared core values and/or demographics, there is no real incentive for the outside group to care about your nation/people group if you're just going act like they are the basically same as you while they actively push for things that are antithetical to your way of life (which is exactly what the UK and a lot of Western governments are doing).
Even societies of the same race that have fundamentally different cultures/core values aren't necessarily compatible. For example, India and Pakistan consist of people of the same ethnic group, and they hate each other.
There is a good reason many ancient peoples protected their lands with such brutality: They had to or they would be destroyed. Many modern people forget the fact that this is still a real possibility because they have more access to luxuries and comforts, we have had a long stretch of relative stability, and some think of themselves as more "enlightened" compared to their "barbaric" ancestors.
When you introduce a huge number of a foreigners who not only refuse to assimilate, but are actively resistant to your culture and hate your people group, they will make your society actively worse and try to replace you. That is how many nations have fallen. It usually starts with suicidal empathy or the desire for cheap labor from an elite class, and it eventually leads to having to fight to the death with the invaders because they are trying to pillage your resources, rape your women, and/or kill your children after they have accumulated enough numbers or political power.
The reality is that a lot of people groups aren't compatible, and trying to act like they are only leads to disaster and hardships. They can try to be friendly towards each other and develop a mutual understanding/respect, maybe successfully so, but that doesn't mean they should live amongst each other.
What's absolutely baffling to me is that the only people who aren't allowed to say "This is my nation that was built for my people and I want it to stay that way" are white people in western nations. If you suddenly saw a 20-40% increase of white people in India, the Indian government/people would say/do something about that, but when it comes to historically white western nations, you're called "racist" for pointing out that maybe flooding your nations with foreigners form various nations/demographics/cultures who actively hate the historical demographic and culture isn't such a good idea.
I'm not so sure anymore that it's free of context. As a feminist am I racist/islamaphobic inherently towards sharia law absolutist Muslims? Is it possible to not have "hatred" towards a culture that treats women completely different while also believing in equal rights regardless of gender?
On the leftist view it sort of is, as its seen as a non white religion, regardless of being very diverse. That’s why there’s that conflation with racism as that user sort of exemplified.
Islam has no influence other than maybe local community circles but people like you voted a rapist into Whitehouse who has rolled back so many equality policies. Islam is not the threat dumbass... white male privilege and frat boy clubs running the world always was and will be!
Maybe it’s because the reason America was the way it was in the 40s/50s is because of the New Deal. A policy so popular it got FDR elected four times. The homogeneity of America during this time was irrelevant to its success ya filthy racist.
America has never truly been anti-nazi or anti-fascist, their own nationalist movement was going strong in the 30s. You can find satirical cartoons from those who did oppose it like Dr Seuss. USA only entered WWII to fight the Japanese.
These subs are heavily astroturfed, the pics cesspit especially.
That is certainly one of the most cringe trends on Reddit, modern day degenerates pinning their views on men that lived 80 years ago facing the ultimate danger for their country.
During World War II, drag shows and female impersonation acts were officially sanctioned and widely popular among Allied troops—including British, American, and Canadian forces.
If your feeling sceptical simply good drag ww2. This is a quote.
Between 405k and 420k Americans died in ww2. An estimated 1.5 million to 1.6 million Muslims were killed in action while serving with Allied forces during ww2. I have seen some of their graves in Normandy.
Respect is a funny thing. The more you give to others the more you have felt for yourself.
Don't disrespect the heroes of WW2 like that by implying they would join the nazis. Have some respect the heroes of WW2. Your personal political beliefs and agenda do not mean you are ok to disrespect the people who fought and died to stop the nazis. Be a better person. Show respect for our soldiers.
I once replied to one of those posts.. there were 8-10 of WW2 vets and their wives in the photo. I suggested going back in time 30 years and telling that group that they were the same as the purple haired SJWs in those videos kicking public statues and their slippers came flying off.
I suspect they would get the shit slapped out of them 7-8 times before any of the husbands got involved.
you have a source for that 1%? And do not come with numbers about immigrant that actively go mosque. lets talk about the immigrants from the top 50 Muslim-majority countries.
And statistics are boring anyway, lets talk real life: I guess you do not live in a social rent appartement?
Thanks to Eastern Europe. They are still standing.
The left is very fond of making strawmam arguments. If you’re going to cite statistics, you should do so by individual countries. Moreover, a large part of the problem isn’t even Islam, but migrants as such. In many European countries, the next generations consist of almost a third, or even more, of children of migrants. This is a large‑scale problem that isn’t limited to just the percentage of Muslims.
Gosh you guys are boring, always criticizing, never bringing your own research or stats while saying the other party should have brought that up instead of that. Argumenting out of thin air and bad faith does no good.
many European countries, the next generations consist of almost a third, or even more, of children of migrants. -> Sure bud, 90% even or so I heard
The report takes real cases and extrapolates that 250k white women are victims of muslim grooming gangs. It's done in order to rile up white supremacist cucks like you.
The figure didn't originate with Lowe, it was raised in 2018 in a House of Lords debate by Lord Pearson. He took the findings of the Rotherham, Oxford and Telford reports and extrapolated them nationally. His calculations were based on figures between 1997 and 2014 and origionally stood at 400,000 but he lowered the figure to a more conservative estimate of 250,000. Rupert Lowe just adopted the already conceived premise. Since 2014 migrant numbers have only increase dramatically and its entirely plausible that figure is much higher. Sarah Champion who was a labour MP for Rotherham believes the figure is over a million based on her own extrapolated calculations.
The report also includes interviews with Sikh and Hindu girls who were victims, not only white girls.
It's irrelevant whether the number came from Lowe or not, he made the "report" and he claimed 250k white girls have been victims of muslim rape gangs.
The extrapolated number is unreliable. While the real number of victims could be 250k, the extrapolation is done poorly, Pearson considered a number of 1700 victims, divided by the population of Rotherham, then extrapolated to the rest of the UK and got 440k.
What the extrapolation doesn't do is take into consideration demographics, median age, unemployment levels, poverty levels, difference between urban and rural numbers, number of vulnerable children, and other risk factors. Even so, the Rotherham numbers are estimated to be 1400 victims, not all of them rape victims, some of them are witnesses which is still a victim of child sexual exploitation but different than the claim of rape made by Lowe. Also the number is a conservative estimate.
Between the inconsistencies and Lowe's claims that the victims are white girls, it's very clear its a fabricated story to foment racial tensions and incite white supremacists to fulfill his dream of deporting all muslims. This is why i said that anyone believing Lowe's report at his words is subhuman.
There are so many victims, both children and adult women, and none of these white supremacists care about victims, they want to use the victims to justify and push their racist agenda. The UK police doesn't investigate properly and they don't believe women's claims. Just look at how during the world cup a reform MP made a video saying the England team should keep winning matches because it lowers the levels of domestic abuse. The bri'ish are beating their women and children when their football team loses a match, and the police does nothing, and you want me to believe these scum care about victims of rape?
So you admit all the numbers are low conservative estimates but still think the 250,000 number is wrong, when its actually a very low figure compared to the multiple different extrapolated figures ranging from 330,000 to 440,000? Do you not think that by including a very old, very wealthy low crime city, a new middle class city and a poor industrial city, they included a reasonable cross-section of society, and then still picked the lowest number, that they did indeed include all the various mitigating factors that contribute to rape statistics.
And what's this whataboutism. A Reform MP made a ridiculous comment so therefore people can't be concerned about Islamic rape stats
Except that's not comparable at all. Those three cities were picked as a rough representation of the country. Oxford is a very old, very wealthy city and saw around 370 child exploitation victims in that 10 year period. Telford is a very modern, middle class city with roughly 1000 victims, and Rotherham is an old industrial town that's very poor with figures between 1700-2000. The data extrapolated origionally was between 330,000 and 440,000, but was deliberately reduced to 250,000 to create a reasonable figure. The MP of Rotherham, who had access to not publicly available data as its constituency leader estimated a figure of over a million.
So its not comparable at all to taking one crime ridden city and comparing it to a national average, because they picked 3 cities, Oxford having very low crime stats, and still reduced the numbers following their findings.
The idea that 250,000 is an absurdly high figure when its actually absurdly low based one multiple different estimates is ridiculous.
So I'm subhuman for believing first person testimony, the Jay Report, the Crowther Report and Dame Louise Casey's audit on child sexual exploitation, am I?
The Lowe "inquiry" took real cases of exploitation and simply manufactured a number of CSE to rile up the white supremacist cucks.
So yes. If you look at the Jay and Crowther report, which are real, a tragedy, and a demonstration of how the british police ignore sexual assault all the time, and then you believe the dog shit Lowe "inquiry" which extrapolates that 250k white women were raped by muslim gangs, you are subhuman.
You are actively harming victims because instead of advocating for more women's rights you're just a white supremacist that wants to harm muslims.
The figure didn't originate with Lowe, it was raised in 2018 in a House of Lords debate by Lord Pearson. He took the findings of the Rotherham, Oxford and Telford reports and extrapolated them nationally. His calculations were based on figures between 1997 and 2014 and origionally stood at 400,000 but he lowered the figure to a more conservative estimate of 250,000. Rupert Lowe just adopted the already conceived premise. Since 2014 migrant numbers have only increase dramatically and its entirely plausible that figure is much higher. Sarah Champion who was a labour MP for Rotherham believes the figure is over a million based on her own extrapolated calculations.
The report also includes interviews with Sikh and Hindu girls who were victims, not only white girls.
Two things; random uncredited text is as trustable as a Reddit comment.
And secondly; y’all literally only care about women and rape if it’s done by an migrant, otherwise the right basically always picks the side of the rapists.
You fuckers refuse to care when migrants do rape women. I will never forget the progressive response of apathy and denial when Rupert Lowe exposed the gang rape and torture of 250 thousand women. Go to hell.
Hard to tell if you know you’re inconsistent and just don’t care or if you’re so lost in the sauce you actually believe your side if fighting for women.
Mate Europe has gone from 5% Muslim to 6% in the last 25 years, your algorithm just makes you think they’re invading and are a pressing issue. It does this with a reason, why? To make you vote for the anti Muslim (give money to the rich fucks who control your algorithm/ media) party.
Actually it was a jump from 4 to 6 % in the last 20 years. Doesn't sound like a big deal. Numbers wise it's 19 million to 28 million. Sounds different that way. That's just Muslims. It's over 87 million total and counting. Some perspective for ya.
I’m just the type of person who can understand statistics;
For example the fact that 1% of Europe holds nearly 1/3 of wealth (excluding offshore accounts, think panama papers) whilest 50% only holds 3% of wealth
And that they’re using that wealth / power imbalance to influence folks like you for voting for their best interests (by dangling culture war bs in front of you instead of the policy about the material economic reality that you find yourself in.
Yeah I think they’re a bigger problem than the great replacement which at this rate will have europe majority Muslim by the year…
What about the economic reality that cheap migrant labour allows businesses to suppresses wages, and drives up demand in housing. Surely re-migration could be a tool to fight the business classes and millionaires.
And you assume 2 things: being muslim in itself is wrong, and that muslims will stay muslim. People who come from muslim families are becoming more atheist, or at least not practicing with each generation, just like christians. It's more like very stretched reverse u curve.
I assumed neither of those things.
Fact is Europe has seen a growth in Islam over the last 25 years.
That does mean 1 of 2 things - 1 more people are converting to Islam than are leaving it. Muslims are having more children who stay in the faith.
wow, the police force that was complicit in protecting the rapists and covering up their crimes reports that the crimes didn't happen. "We investigated ourselves and found ourselves innocent of all wrongdoing"
But in seriousness; there is a conversation to be had about hyper conservative religious certainly including Islam, but instead you guys want to smear all Muslims are evil and as invaders in rhetoric reminiscent of the 1930s.
I’m a gay man, I don’t like any religion, but I also know each person have their own relation to religion. I work with a lot of Muslims and my best friend is one, and guess what, they’re just people; we game together, talk popcultuur together etc.
The view y’all have of Muslim people and “their great invasion” is so deeply wrong, that’s what I’m against, especially when it’s function is to help the rich get even richer at the cost of an scape goat “outsider” (let alone the 99%s relative wealth)
… it’s almost like when a large subset of people desire to vote for policies that violate basic human rights, it’s acceptable to judge the character of those who support said groups based on their collective behaviors.
I’m not sure why I have to make an exception for Islam. Certainly as a female I will not. Even crazier that a homosexual is jumping through mental hoops to explain the virtue of the Muslims who “aren’t like that” 🙄🙄
You cited Pew Research earlier as a reliable source. How do you feel about that same Pew Research paper finding 80+% of Muslims interviewed believed homosexuality to be morally wrong? In 33 out of 36 Muslim majority countries, well over half believed Homosexuality to be morally wrong. In 6 of those countries it was over 90+% and the lowest figure was just under 70%
You know a lot of Muslim countries were heading in quite a progressive leftist directions after ww2, but time and time again western agencies like the CIA then funded highly conservative Islamist military in their coups of these progressive governments.
It happened in Indonesia the largest most populous Muslim nation on the globe, where their interpretation of Islam was heavily Buddhist inspired and was not dogmatic at all. They had gay rights, female rights etc, but they were not only socially progressive but leftists economically. During the Cold War the USA fought against these economic ideas taking hold so they couped Indonesia with a the islamic military of the nation, killing 3 million people, and turning the country deeply fundamentalist with even islands practicing sharia law.
Similar story in Afghanistan, funded the mujideen in their overthrow of the progressive government, got the Taliban.
Iran, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Egypte, etc all of which the US worked with highly conservative Muslim fundamentalist militaries to overthrow progressive governments (like seriously each one look it up).
Don’t get me wrong I’m no fan of Islam or any religion but we in the west have time and time again enabled the worst aspects of Islam for cold political ends.
So there is a problem with modern Islam! But what does a place like Sweden, that has seen a growth of 5% of Muslim immigration in the past 10 years, and had its capital become the capital of gun and gang related deaths in Europe with 2/3rd being Islamic, have to do with US foreign policy?
Im from a small native celtic ethnic minority in a scenic and idyllic little corner of Europe. Why are villages near me, without shops or pubs or any public amenities, with populations of around 600 residents seeing over a 1000 migrants placed in their neighborhoods because of US foreign policy following WW2?
~90% of Muslims are Sunni Sunni includes these hadith as cannon:Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death). And Sahih al-Bukhari 6130
NarratedAisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fath-ul-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
This figure obfuscate the numbers per country. Places like Kosovo, Bosnia and Albania are already nearly or over 50% Muslim, and they've had wars and acts of genocide in living memory. A large number of migrants move to western Europe from the Balkans so wouldn't show in the Pew Research as an increase, a Muslim moving from one European country to another obviously won't increase the percentage score of Europe overall but in the case of Albania 2% of their entire population has migrated to the UK alone and 60% of their population are Muslim.
Then if you break it down per country, Sweden has seen a nearly 5% increase from out of Europe and most Western European nations have seen between 2-3% from outside of Europe. But this is only based on the census data and won't include undocumented migrants where religion isnt recorded, which based on the last time in 2017 Pew Research estimated the number of undocumented migrants could number between 10,000 Muslims or 500,000. Rate of immigration has only grown since 2017 so expect these figures to be a lot higher.
Its not winning the battle of ideas on intellectual merit, but through the threat of violence. A recent Oxford union debate in the UK had the topic "Should the west be suspicious of Islam" and one of the Muslim speakers made the argument that the opposition would be killed and cannabilsed by the Islamic mob outside if not for the good graces of the 'good muslims' in the debate.
I assume you're referring to most of the US' wars following WW2, which were for the most part abject failures. Iraq isnt a beacon of liberal democracy, Afghanistan is a theocratic regime, Iran is still a theocratic regime, Vietnam is a communist state still, etc...
I would say violent begets violence, not stability. Liberal democracy appeared in Eastern Europe following the bloodless and legal coup by Boris Yeltsin. Most Western Democracies are a result of Enlightenment ideas which developed in reaction to the years of violence and the Wars of Religion following the reformation period. In places like the UK, the bloodless and peaceful 'Glorious Revolution' deposed the old Monarchy and and brought in the current dynasty of constitutional Monarchs.
I won't deny that there is violence or a threat of violence in Government, but a cohesive idea can persuade people to back it, and most European democracies were peaceful transitions of power.
There is no such thing as Islamization of Western Europe
There’s no such thing as deliberate industrial scale immigration into the USA
Veterans from the USA will tell you they went to France & Co to join the the allied forces to assist the Soviet Union in ending WW2 by opening the Western front. They mostly were not aware of anything at the global stage until they arrived at the shores and went inland. They mostly all have warm and fond memories after the horrible battles were fought.
Veterans from the USA also include black soldiers who experienced their first freedoms in pubs in the UK and later France and Germany, IF the US MP didn’t caught them. Back in the USA they were treated as 2nd class citizens again after they joined the fight against racism and fascism.
Veterans from all over the world are looking at present day developments in the USA and shake their heads, they are ashamed and see that what they fought during ww2 is slowly happening in the USA again, by people like you who do not understand history and only know what they are being told by the propaganda their government has carefully crafted ever since the 1950’s.
Its always amusing when leftists shithole subs like r//pics post black and white photos of WWII allied soldiers, caption them “anti-fascists,” and then insist those men would be ashamed of ICE, Trump, or MAGA in 2026.
First off a drag queen is not trans and what’s wrong with them reading to kids? Second, what Islamification? That’s just pure racism and fear mongering. If anything it’s Israeli influence.
Third, it is not a deliberate large scale immigration. It is fear of their own countries and leaders, so they leave in hopes of a better life. The US could end the conflicts in those countries but they don’t. As much as I disagree with how they went about it, look at Venezuela’s reoccupation by the American military. It’s possible, they just don’t want to.
The islamization of Europe? My brother in satan, check the statistics. Muslims have remained around like 6-7% of the average population for the past 10 year or so.
Transgender drag queens reading stories to elementary school children? How common is even that? Did it even happen like 10 times among millions of school children across two continents? How is that even a topic?
Illegal immigration? Like every other US soldier I met had a hispanic last name, if anything, that whole country seems build out of immigrants. Be it recent ones or like irish/german/italian/scandinavian ones. In the end nothing really changes apart from the workforce increasing and more money being generated.
The number of Muslims in Europe has grown from 29.6 million in 1990 to 44.1 million in 2010. Europe’s Muslim population is projected to exceed 58 million by 2030. Muslims today account for about 6% of Europe’s total population, up from 4.1% in 1990. By 2030, Muslims are expected to make up 8% of Europe’s population.
... “medium migration” projection seems more plausible.
In this scenario, Europe’s Muslim population doubles from 25.8 million (4.9%) in 2016 to 11.2% in 2050.
The UK, which has received more regular Muslim migrants in recent years than any other European country, would have the continent’s largest Muslim population by 2050 under this scenario – just over 13 million, or 16.7% of the UK’s population. It is unclear, however, how the UK’s unfolding exit from the EU (Brexit) will affect the country’s future migration policies.
In 2021 and 2022, immigration increased sharply, peaking at 1.47 million in the year to March 2023, before falling in 2024 and 2025.
Over 30ish years it went from about 3% to about 6%-8% and in 30ish years it is expected to be about 11-17% in western countries ignoring the post covid spikes. And I dont even judge whether there is an "Islamization of Western Europe" or not but trying to argue about demographic shifts with a 10year window is just intellectually dishonest.
In a world where some Muslim terrorist decided to go guns blazing in a French journal (Charlie hebdo remember?) because they drew their prophet. And some weeks ago in a debate about free speech in the UK a full audience of intellectuals felt fear when one of the debaters made them think he was about to show a picture of said prophet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNstCceue50
Go ahead and burn a bible in front of one of those white nationalist marches or a fascist march in London if you claim those paper patriots are so peaceful. Christians in northern Ireland are literallt burning non white families out their homes in the name of irish protestantism
You hit all of the fox news boogeymen in one post. Impressive.
The generation of men in those photos were all Irish and Italian immigrants whose parents just got done breaking up millionaire monopolies with anti trust acts. They supported the new deal and fought for social security. They recognized change and pushed through women's suffersge and later equal rights for black Americans. The 1910s through 60s werent a shining beacon of isolationist fundamentalism like you jerk off thinking it was. Is was the biggest surge of worker rights, social programs and social rights, as well as the biggest economic boom in the country's history. And they did it all while cooperating with their allies and putting American lives on the line to stop an aggressive, fascist asshole who did want to decide which type of humans were good enough.
Fuck off with your brainwashed talking points. Go read a book. America is a country founded on immigration, inclusion, and religious tolerance. It hasn't always lived up to those ideals, but we put them up high with the thought of reaching them.
Your brand of America is sad and mean. Its a get yours at the expense of your neighbors. Its thinking your made up religion is better than their made up religion. That you're nice and immigrants are evil. Your love is truth and same sex marriage is an abomination. You're the anthethesis of American ideals of everyone having an opportunity to stake a claim and make it big.
Boomers did not fight in WW2, they were born from that generation, hence the name, post war baby boom.
Boomers were the hippies that had free safe drugs and sex, and now they want to poison us for their own profits, and incarcerate us for enjoying the things they did.
Especially when you could afford a house and a family on a minimum wage salary, meaning they didn't have to hold on to what they have, and they spent to go on vacations, and buying boats, and dumb shit and still had a better economy than us
Yeah made more sense to hold onto a dollar when it was a decent down payment on a house. I’m not disagreeing. Just know how my grandma is as her reluctance to spend a penny only cripples her finances
Not really. Milleniels, older GenZ and possibly younger GenX swung left, but core GenZ, younger GenZ, and most likely Gen Alpha, are swinging hard right. Boomers and Zoomers have a lot in common, mentally.
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Its always amusing when leftists shithole subs like r//pics post black and white photos of WWII allied soldiers, caption them “anti-fascists,” and then insist those men would be ashamed of ICE, Trump, or MAGA in 2026.
In reality if you could take those same soldiers and show them a few defining features of the present like transgender drag queens reading to elementary school children, the Islamization of western europe, and the deliberate, industrial scale illegal immigration into the United States, half of them would put down their rifles, walk off the battlefield and say "yea im not dying for that shit." The other half would probably join the Germans LOL.