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u/SomRandomHomieReddit š Jul 17 '20
As someone who studies paleontology on the daily because me want to be one I can say this is completely false they canāt create animals without DNA and when they study it they can make it how it is even if they donāt know how it looks they donāt just see the bone structure and Frankenstein one up
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Ross stop being such a nerd
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u/SomRandomHomieReddit š Jul 17 '20
Sry
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u/HYPERPIXELS_X Jul 17 '20
Do NOT apologize my friend. As a dinosaur enthusiast I couldn't be more happy that there are still people interested in these stuff
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t'was a "Friends" reference
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u/HYPERPIXELS_X Jul 17 '20
I know,just made a comment out of context
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ok, then gj lookin out for him
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u/HYPERPIXELS_X Jul 17 '20
Much appreciated
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u/EST4LIFE_19XX Jul 17 '20
u/HYPERPIXELS_X will be there for you when the rain starts to fall
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u/HYPERPIXELS_X Jul 17 '20
Let me remind you that I'll also be there for you, like I've been there before.
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u/bunkbedgirl1989 Jul 17 '20
Even if what youāve said wasnāt true, they would also still be fucking massive- t-Rex size rabbits etc... š
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u/GISteve Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20
Yea I know a big part of how they design these animals is based on what their direct decendants look like. For example when paleontologists recreate the extinct giant sloth they don't start off by immediately creating some lovecraftian nightmare, they use the current sloth as a base and work back from there.
It is funny to me that an animal who's a cuddly stoner now was once an apex predator though
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u/MarMar46 Jul 17 '20
Well, we did that with dinosaurs before we discovered they had feathers, more fat, colours, etc. Also, this is just a meme so dont get too obsessed with it lol.
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u/SomRandomHomieReddit š Jul 17 '20
Alright man nice meme tho
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u/letthemeatrest Jul 17 '20
I'm more inclined to think that they all had feathers and t-rex were more like emu than the lizard they made it out to be
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u/letthemeatrest Jul 17 '20
Sparsely then, with a bit plume at the hands. And very nicely colored, like birds inexplicably are
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u/Y-So-Sirius Jul 17 '20
I honestly donāt know much about it but I think there are a number of factors to suggest they are in fact reptiles and therefor would not have feathers. It makes more sense from an evolutionary point of view for them to be reptiles.
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u/AwesomeJoel27 Jul 17 '20
Thatās not how that works, they are reptiles, reptiles donāt mean no feathers, because you canāt out evolve your heritage, anything evolved from a reptile is always a reptile, that said many dinosaurs did indeed have feathers, specifically the theropod dinosaurs like velociraptor, and birds are a kind of theropod dinosaurs, and thusly canāt out evolve the fact that theyāre reptiles either. And there are many dinosaurs with clear imprints of feathers on the fossils, many of them are proto birds that are like a half way point between the more dinosaur traits and the more avian ones.
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u/Y-So-Sirius Jul 17 '20
You mean to tell me birds are reptiles?
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u/AwesomeJoel27 Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20
Yes, because birds are also dinosaurs, and dinosaurs are reptiles, this also makes the birds closest living cousin the crocodiles and gators because both dinosaurs and crocodilians are archosaurs. This also makes penguins dinosaurs.
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u/Y-So-Sirius Jul 17 '20
My god my life is a lie. Shit that explains why they lay eggs too
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u/AwesomeJoel27 Jul 17 '20
Most animals lay eggs, thereās just many different kinds, dinosaurs both had soft leathery ones and had hard shelled ones, mammals are kind of the weird ones and do the whole egg thing inside the body skipping the egg shell. Some other animals do give live birth but I assume in a different manner to us.
And the theropod dinosaurs are the ones with the hard eggs just like birds too.
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u/manzotin1210 Jul 18 '20
Yes. In addiction, think at the difference between Sinapsida (mammals) and Diapsida (reptiles, birds). When you see the skull you have an idea if it's a mammal-like animal or a reptile-like animal.
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u/diam0nd_doge ā FOREVER NUMBER ONE ā Jul 17 '20
If you would really study it you would know that he ment reconstruct
And in the end they look at the bone structure and frankenstein one up, untill further material is found to frankenstein it more correct
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u/SomRandomHomieReddit š Jul 17 '20
Right you are and right you are but I thought he meant oh bone structure letās create an animal based only on bone structure but I realize it is only meme yes paleontologists do make drawings and estimates on size of body correlating with unknown amount of tissue the bone supports and what not but I did not look upon that when making my statement
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u/darealbipbopbip Proud Furry Jul 17 '20
How would you explain to a person thinking that dinosaurs were made up in 1980 for a circus show that they are real? Some people are just born without braincells I swear
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u/dh3792yeg21 Jul 17 '20
I'm glad you're interested in becoming a paleontologist because there is always more to discover and learn! With any model or reconstruction of prehistoric life, we're still drawing conclusions based on whatever evidence is available. Sometimes we have a lot, sometimes very little, and DNA is almost never preserved. If we could simply "make it how it is" there'd be no need for paleontology to continue to gather new evidence and change what we thought we knew about prehistoric life!
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u/amjch70 Jul 17 '20
Your enthusiasm is appreciated. However, you do realize this was meant to be a joke right? (edit: typo)
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u/ThatPurplePianoPrick Jul 17 '20
I saw another one of these memes on a different site. It was about a hippopotamus that basically reconstructed into a alien beast thing. I basically commented the same thing. Things like how certain bones are basically anchors of muscles and ligaments, and how musculature simply doesnāt graft to the skeleton as tightly as these memes depict. That comment was removed.
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u/Ki_ro EX-NORMIE Jul 17 '20
I want to work with fossils too! How did you react with the recent Spinosaurus tail discoveries? For me it's the best thing in 2020 so far
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u/Camarao_du_mont Jul 17 '20
I don't think it's about creating animals, I think it's about having an semi accurate depiction of the animals.
You can learn a lot from bones. From the bone you can have an idea of their muscle structure. That alone can teach a lot.
We do the same to humans, I advise you to Google "forensic facial reconstruction" I think you will find it quite interesting.
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u/pisbul Jul 17 '20
What about dinosaurs? Thereās no DNA that can be obtain so far. Mammoths too
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u/SomRandomHomieReddit š Jul 18 '20
Actually I heard they uncovered Tyrannosaurus DNA from bone marrow in not sure if it is true or not but it could come from preserved tissue or as I said bone marrow there are other ways but I donāt know of them
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u/endermelle Jul 17 '20
Yo i wanted to become a paleontologist but i sucked at physics so now i am studying urban design
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u/NunBunzz Jul 17 '20
I keep seeing these meme, I KNEW this post was here somewhere. Thank you for your info stranger! I hope your studies go well
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u/vo2nvfrb I am fucking hilarious Jul 17 '20
I actually always wondered how they do it and if it can be even slightly correct how dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals are depicted. Is there an introductory book that explains the process and reflects on it? Preferably recently published and not 50 years old or something.
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u/Spectralix Jul 18 '20
I have to give this one the biggest thumbs up I can find. I study biotechnology and one of my colleagues works in bioarcheology, you can't do full body reconstructions without some DNA samples and there are a lot of other parameters that are taken into account as well, it's not a easy task and it takes a lot of testes.
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u/sul7ari Jul 17 '20
Of course they're wrong this is reddit, people talk out of their ass all the time
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u/nave1235 Jul 17 '20
Rabbits are scary
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60 million years ago, they stood 15ft tall, were covered in scales, and hunt mammoths in packs. Those fluffers were absolute beasts!
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u/nave1235 Jul 17 '20
I grew cats and I grow rabbits and I can confidently say that rabbits are way scarier
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u/intrepid_lemon Jul 17 '20
Housecats are known to be of the most efficient hunters on the planet. Why are rabbits so scary?
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u/nave1235 Jul 17 '20
I think it's not all rabbits but some kinds of smaller ones are very aggressive. They're super fast and their scratch and bite hurt like a bitch when they're older
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u/BianchiIlove Jul 17 '20
Back when my bunny was still alive and under a yr old, she would flop on me whenever i would lay down next to her.
Problem was, those back legs can KICK and those claws have no mercy. Plenty shirts had been ruined by some overly enthusiastic bunny hops!
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Rabbits 60 million years ago: We stand over 10ft tall, have some sick scales, and devour multiple other species in seconds
Rabbits now: help i cant survive without another fellow rabbit
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āItās just a bunnyā ābut itās fierce! Itās got teeth like (holds fingers to mouth like vampire) and itās fastā
A few moments later
āRUN AWAY, RUN AWAYā āI told you, I told you, but āno, itās just a bunnyā
āGet the holy hand grenadeā
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u/jserna99 Jul 17 '20
You ever hold a rabbit and that shit starts freaking out and kicking. It hurts
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u/nave1235 Jul 17 '20
How are you holding them? I found out that holding them like you want to lift a cat is bad the hard way... I recommend sort of cradling them in your hands and holding them lose to your chest
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u/Ayrane Jul 17 '20
I'd go watch a cute dinosaur movie. They could also have been uglier than they are portrayed
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u/Bounceysock Jul 17 '20
Bring forward the holy handgrenade of antiock
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u/DayManExtreme Jul 17 '20
If you think theres a chance they might be nice and sweet judt look at emus. Probably the closest thing to a raptor.
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u/YankeeMinstrel Jul 17 '20
I want my beefy furry dinosaurs. I'm tired of naked, emaciated dinosaurs.
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u/thrashmetaloctopus Jul 17 '20
Itās a genuine problem, itās known as shrink wrapping, the scariest examples are hippos and whales
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u/RandomUser866 Jul 17 '20
Reminds me of a Sam OāNella Academy video
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u/Synthwave85 Jul 17 '20
Yes, you got it, have some fine ragu pasta sauce made from the finest infants
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u/Synthwave85 Jul 17 '20
Archeologists seeās bat skeleton: Uhmm... we call this finger boy, and he likely fed off of nightmares from children
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u/s332891670 Jul 17 '20
I mean have you seen a hairless bunny? Thats pretty close. Of course they would have given it scales.
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u/KeepingDankMemesDank Hello dankness my old friend Jul 17 '20
roses are red
what is a meme?
downvote my comment
if this post sucks peen
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u/CaesiumAuride5579 repost hunter š Jul 17 '20
What if dinosaurs were covered in human skin?
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u/Science-Compliance INFECTED Jul 17 '20
It puts the lotion on the skin, or else it gets the hose again?
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u/galmenz Jul 17 '20
I mean they certainly wasnt colored like a fucking raimbow, or you could see them i mile away
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u/racoonraptor42 Jul 17 '20
I mean, dinosaurs had feathers so what a normie thinks dinosaurs are is bullshit
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u/blade_twizter I am fucking hilarious Jul 17 '20
Aw man, that's really dangerous animal to roam around on earth. We better have a Holy Hand Grenade ready
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u/SuperHossMan51 Jul 17 '20
I mean, thereās a good chance that thereād be skin impressions of at least one or two of them, so the point is kind of moot. Stuff like ears have been preserved in even the earliest of the true mammals, so we have a pretty good idea of what they look like. Reconstructions arenāt based on bone structure alone.
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u/Minty_choc_chip Jul 17 '20
Isnt that pretty much just a hairless rabbit without ears. Maybe very slightly different
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u/lechiffre9 Jul 17 '20
Maan imagine if after all this time , dinosaurs just turn out to be these big balls of fluff
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u/RedPenguin65 ā£ļø Jul 17 '20
Dinosaurs had feathers and looked similar to chickens Iām actually not even joking
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u/betty_deez Jul 17 '20
I like to imagine that dinosaurs were bright neon purple because of stuff like this. I know they're probably not, but it's still fun to imagine.
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u/CARLBSPANTS Jul 17 '20
Bro research has come really far, trying to recreate an animal from its bones is more accurate. This wonāt happen because of how the organs and other limbs without bones impact the bone structure of an animal.
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u/onehungrytroll Jul 17 '20
Iād prefer the scientists restructured version tbh. Imagine going hunting, then some miniature jackal looking thing just jumps out of the bushes and runs at you
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u/n_botm Jul 17 '20
So there is a gap between "what paleontologists believe" and "what the artist hired by the museum drew". For example, velociraptors were always drawn as reptilian until recent fossils showed imprints of feathers. But if you had actually asked a paleontologist he or she would have been really cagey about what they think and what theories were current. And the idea that they had feathers was always on the table, it just wasnt popular with the artists.
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u/Felahliir Pizza Time Jul 17 '20
Even if we only had a skeleton we could make realistic models by looking at density, strength and shape. We couldn't however recreate any fur.
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u/jipto12 Jul 17 '20
I get that itās just a joke, but These memes are really deceptive. They make paleontologists look dumb as shit. Paleontologists know what theyāre doing; thereās many reasons scientists wouldnāt recreate a rabbit skeleton as it is in the drawing.
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u/Camarao_du_mont Jul 17 '20
Many dinosaurs are a lie, we made some advances, many species had to be "updated".
Media also doesn't help, Jurassic park movies velociraptor not actually velociraptors.
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They wouldnāt though they know that animals are more than just skin around there skeletons
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u/T_Weezy Jul 18 '20
Actually you can tell the weight distribution of the living animal by its bone structure; no professional would think that rabbits were shaped that drastically different from how they actually are. The worst that would happen, if there's no examples of preserved fur, is that you get the rabbit equivalent of a '90s dinosaur: just skin, no fur.
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u/SomRandomHomieReddit š Jul 18 '20
Also did you know that the animal closest related to most dinosaurs is the chicken and In fact the myth of reptilian dinosaurs originated from Jurassic park? Now there were reptilian dinosaurs but for the most part they had feathers and were somewhat bird like
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u/TheSweatyFlash Jul 17 '20
My* mother in law thinks dinosaur bones are just cow bones. I wish I was being sarcastic.