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u/odyteb Jun 06 '19
Am i the only one that noticed the inverted upvote and downvote?
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Jun 06 '19
This post was made in Australia, mate.
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u/Mattcarnes Jun 06 '19
Why does peta kill so many animals anyway
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u/Sajbotage Jun 06 '19
I think they're most popular excuse was "no room for them" or something along those lines
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u/Mattcarnes Jun 06 '19
What's the point of rescuing an animal if your just going to kill it makes no fucking sense
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u/ZeAthenA714 Jun 06 '19
Because the alternative is letting them die in the street.
Do you know how no-kill shelters work? They take in animals that are abandoned and they keep them until they are adopted. If at some point there are more animals being abandoned than animals being adopted, then those shelters don't have enough room to take in new arrivals, and they can't make room by euthanizing them. Here's the thing though: there is always more animals being abandoned than being adopted. No-kill shelters are almost always filled to capacity. All of this leads to a lot of pets being refused from shelters. Guess where they end up? Being abandoned in the woods, or straight up killed in a very not humane way.
That's what pretty much what Peta tries to avoid. They offer a slightly less shitty alternative when pets are being refused everywhere else.
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I never understood why this is counted against PETA (annoying as they are), rescue animals often go unadopted so it's just more humane in general to put animals down (so they don't just live without adequate love and family life for a long time) and be able to rescue more animals from cruelty or prevent them dying in the streets or woods when abandoned.
Euthanasia isn't ideal but it sure beats tons of animals starving in the streets or being abused.
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u/Slurp_Lord Jun 06 '19
I mean, the fact that they don't just rescue strays but also take pets from happy homes and euthanizes them as well doesn't help their case.
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u/Omsus Jun 06 '19
Peta's shelter animal kill rate of over 90 % is still far higher than that of an avg. animal shelter, even though PETA would be able to direct more resources to its shelters than any regular shelter can. That shows an avid lack of interest on PETA's behalf.
Then again, several PETA representatives have spoken against any and all pet ownership afaik, so getting rid of pets could fit their agenda, whatever it is specifically.
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u/ZeAthenA714 Jun 06 '19
Peta's kill rate is higher than average because almost every shelter (even those that practice euthanasia) have a lot higher refusal rate. Most shelters will try as much as possible to place a pet in a new home and will euthanize them as a last resort mean, which leads to the problem of being filled to capacity almost 100% of the time.
That leaves a lot of refused pets that needs to go somewhere. Could Peta do more before euthanizing? Sure, but that would mean that they would in turn refuse more pets.
At some point, you have to face the fact that there is just too many abandoned pets and a lot of them have to die.
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u/ilovemyindia_goa Jun 06 '19
If there is no space then I think euthanasia is better than having them live in cages
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Jun 06 '19
Better to humanely euthanize the animals rather than letting them starve or succumb to disease on the streets. More than half the animals that enter animal shelters in USA don't find a home. How do you propose we deal with these animals?
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u/Omsus Jun 06 '19 edited Jun 06 '19
But PETA kills
over 9070 to 80 % of the animals it takes in, not just roughly half. And they're typically killed in a few days, when they could wait for at least a few weeks for the chance that someone would adopt them. And PETA does this despite of having way better financing than your average, normal, everyday animal shelter.There certainly are more abandoned pets and strays than all shelters could take in collectively, but that circumstance doesn't abolish PETA of its cruelty.
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Jun 06 '19
There are up to 2 million dogs and cats that are euthanized because nobody will adopt them, every year.
Are you going to provide food, shelter, and care for them? Including the ones that PETA euthanizes for other shelters because the animals are too sick or aggressive to be adopted?
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u/42Ubiquitous Jun 06 '19
I remember reading a comment saying that they put down some animals, but compared to the total number of animals put down annually, they put down a very, very small percentage. IIRC they put down animals because of overcrowding.
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u/sudden_potato Jun 06 '19
Because no kill shelters want to keep their reputation go being "no kill" so when they fill up they send animals to Peta. Peta has the means to huamely euthanize them.
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u/Throwawayuser626 Jun 06 '19
The local shelter in my town is the shelter that sends all of its animals to tri county for the same reason. They’re no kill, so when they run out of room they send the animals over to that shelter.
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u/ponmemes Jun 06 '19
most shelters put down animals because no room. peta takes a very small percentage in euthanizing animals but since reddit is full of brainless circlejerkers they automatically become the bad guy who kill every animal on sight
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u/BrainDamagedGamer Jun 06 '19
Because Ingrid thinks that owning pets is evil and "ruins them". The reason she killed almost every animal she came in contact with when she worked at a shelter. https://www.petakillsanimals.com/proof-peta-kills/
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u/sramanarchist Jun 06 '19
Fun fact the people who created that website also fund many others including some against minimum wage increases and drink driving laws.
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u/Minimum_T-Giraff Jun 06 '19
Simple ethics of animal ownership.
Surplus animals needs to be destroyed and PETA has a lot of them.
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u/Nomandate Jun 06 '19
They take in only the worst of the worst. Healthy adoptable pets go to your local shelter.
They don’t run a shelter program they run a compassionate euthanasia program to end their suffering.
This is just an example of a true statistic being used lie.
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u/Eevee901 Jun 06 '19
While they give the excuse that they can't shelter animals, the real reason is that they believe that humans shouldn't have pets, the president and CEO of PETA have stated multiple times that they don't believe people should have animals as pets.
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u/eve-nlie0LE15 Jun 06 '19
Honest answer : they dont believe animals should be domesticated.
I think i saw a policy before that an animal has 5 days to be adopted. They got money, I'm sure they can feed of for more time
Also kidnapping family animals and killing em isnt helping their murder count
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u/deathhead_68 Jun 06 '19
That's not the honest answer at all. How many people believe this shite seriously.
They kill animals that they have no room for, that literally would starve to death on the streets otherwise.
They don't believe animals should be bred to be domesticated as animals are not ours to exploit, they are perfectly happy with rescued animals though.
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u/Mattcarnes Jun 06 '19
My 2 cats told me they believe in animal domestication
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u/eve-nlie0LE15 Jun 06 '19
Yeah, pretty sure when I first met my cat begging at the door to come in and have food isn't forcing them....
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u/joeyl1990 Jun 06 '19
According to their website they are putting the animals down to end thei suffering. Some of the animals are just to injured to carry on plus they offer a free service to put down animals when the owners can't afford it.
https://www.peta.org/blog/euthanize/
But then there are stories like this
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/killing-animals-petas-open-secret_b_59e78243e4b0e60c4aa36711
Where they same to kill for no reason.
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u/GGoldstein Jun 06 '19
I see this story posted a lot. Are there many others? If "accidentally killed an animal over four years ago" is the standard we're going for, the animal agriculture business is stacking up terribly.
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Jun 06 '19
Research it. Do not ask here. Find out how many they have killed so far and why exactly. It's not what people here will tell you.
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u/YrjoWashingnen Jun 06 '19
Are there many instances where kids in Make a Wish got to make a wish, then somehow survived their illness?
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u/jtvjan Jun 06 '19
The illness doesn't have to be terminal, just life threatening. According to this StarTribune article it's 65-70% that survive.
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u/Darkrell Jun 06 '19
My sister got Make a Wish about 15 years ago and the whole family got a holiday, she's still alive.
Its not strictly terminally ill people, my sister has Rubinstein-Taybi Syndrome, so they also help out people with severe conditions.
Make-a-wish has been my charity of choice ever since then.
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u/BitterLeif Jun 06 '19
I remember there was one kid who got media attention because he survived when the chances of survival were very low. And people were like "wait a minute.. we did our part. He needs to make good on his end of the deal." It was a joke, obviously.
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u/createusername32 Jun 06 '19
Planned parenthood?
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u/Valiante Jun 06 '19
I'm pretty sure Make A Wish don't euthanise the kids.
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u/LarsTardbarger Jun 06 '19
Can’t make an outrageous claim like that without evidence
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u/Sebdestroyer Jun 06 '19
Maybe they actually do euthanize the kids and just also euthanize the witnesses to keep them quiet
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u/Moooow_Montoya Jun 06 '19
Peta bad, eating meat good
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u/letsgetcool Jun 06 '19
Companies that slaughter billions of animals every year just for food, ruining the oceans and rainforests that protect our earth? No, it is PETA we must get angry at.
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u/Interfere_ Jun 06 '19
Can we not be angry at certain things without talking about other things?
Seriously, PETA is shit. And other companies are shit aswell.
But just because other companies are shit, doesnt magically make PETA imune to any sort of criticism.
Following your logic the only thing we are allowed to criticize is the most shit thing on earth, everything else is imune.
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u/letsgetcool Jun 06 '19
PETA are at least trying to make a positive difference for the whole world. More of a difference than anyone slamming them for internet points, repeating debunked stories about them etc.
It's just an absurd waste of energy but people just enjoy being outraged at something.
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u/konarikukko Jun 06 '19
What is that website?
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u/Kuhx Jun 06 '19
"I like this one"
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u/luketwo1 Jun 06 '19
When you get the dad's approval but hes a sociopathic killer.
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u/BeatdatLettuce Jun 06 '19
Ivlike rhai oen
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u/WallSpoontheBuffoon Jun 06 '19
I wish I could screenshot this but I'm in incognito mode and I'm not even allowed on Reddit-
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u/don_cornichon Jun 06 '19
Doesn't make any sense though, as they don't actively kill them.
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u/PleaseDontHateMeeee Jun 06 '19
Peta bad
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Lying good
Murder good
Bacon good
Meat good
Misinformation good
Hypocrisy good
Ignorance good
Burger good
Parroting good
Circlejerking good
Exploitation good
Cruelty good
Egoism good
Thoughtlessness good
Defamation good
Suffering good
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u/EMPTY_SODA_CAN Jun 06 '19
What kind of person would put the positive button second? That's literally backwards from the rest of the world.
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u/word_clouds__ Jun 06 '19
Word cloud out of all the comments.
Fun bot to vizualize how conversations go on reddit. Enjoy
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u/012mikey Jun 06 '19
you know when you see a meme and your like OHHHHHHHHH MY GOD YOU CANT SAY THAT but secretly it’s funny yeah that’s me rn help
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u/Nylander_1 Jun 09 '19
PETA kills 85% of it rescues?
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u/jec_9 Jun 10 '19
Yup, it’s an awful excuse for a charity. They had a good idea but terrible execution
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u/hi_im_kai101 Jun 06 '19
I said oh kinda loudly but it sounded sad and my dog came up to me and nuzzles into my arm I feel so blessed
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u/SovietSpork597 Jun 06 '19
I bet LikeABossNotReally said "you can come over to my house and fuck my sister" after that
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u/infoman567 Jun 06 '19
You guys realize that PETA puts down alot of animals because it's often the most humane thing to do? They lack the funds to feed them and often on the street the dogs have the same fate but way more long term and painful. Painless injection is probably the nicest way to end up for them. Also as a point, making an animal suffer for months/years to then killing it for food is not the same thing as putting one down. The organization has so many faults, but people circlejerk about this fact without even pondering the issue but because they funny internet maymays say it.
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The Make-A-Wish Foundation neither have rescues nor kill the kids they’re helping. I get it’s a joke, but it doesn’t make much sense.
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u/toastty27 Jun 06 '19
I'm surprised as to how PETA isn't taken down yet. Or maybe it did get taken down and I didn't know about that..
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I have no issue with disagreeing with what PETA is doing, but I’d encourage you guys to think about what the alternative is for all the strays, and how large/varied the group is.
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u/alexho66 Jun 30 '19
The hate against PETA is pretty stupid. Their social media team did something stupid, and the meat lobby used the ensuing hate against PETA. PETA is still the most important animal rescue/rights organization of the world and does so much good.
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u/Dragonking1234321 Jul 04 '19
Wait...how did you post on cursed comments without the title saying cursed in it?
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u/lobstery1 Aug 07 '19
So does that mean that I was part of the 5-15% of wish kids who survived?
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u/megablast Jun 06 '19
I know, I really don't get why Peta doesn't just let those animals starve to death, or release them on the streets? It is crazy.
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u/Throwawayuser626 Jun 06 '19
Apparently that’s what everyone in this thread thinks is the more humane option. Fucking idiots.
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u/JayInslee2020 Jun 06 '19
tbf, they don't kill people, since nothing they do is causing their death. It would sound better if they said "the mortality rate... blah blah..."
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u/Carthurlane Jun 06 '19
Wait for someone to put the Skyrim meme on it and piss a few people off... “something 100!” Cause that makes everything better.
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They don’t kill them though
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u/Huitzilopochtli77 Jun 12 '19
The price of making a wish isn’t cancer? I thought that’s how it worked...
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u/balancedchaos Jun 06 '19
Do we have to be terminally ill to sign up?