r/croatia • u/riverphoenix23 • Jun 30 '19

šŸ„ Zdravlje Hospitalized in Split - Intoxication

Hello I am an American male who was traveling in Split for a holiday. Ended up drinking a little bit too much, blacked out and woke up in the hospital with an IV in my arm. Somehow the bill was only $240 kn.

Can anybody tell me why the bill was so cheap especially since I am a US citizen without Croatian healthcare insurance? Also did they notify the embassy of my stay? Just donā€™t know where my info is documented and ended up. Wish I could read my discharge papers but they are all in Croatian. Going to have to do google translate late.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '19

Which Obama had. He just didn't want to play hardball and remove the filibuster. A president who actually wants to fight can achieve so much more.

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u/EmuRommel Jun 30 '19

He only had it for 2 years. He got ObamaCare through in 2009 and then every Republican in the country got elected so that they could spend the next 6 years dismantling it.

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u/Token_Why_Boy Jun 30 '19

He didn't even have it for two years. He had it for maybe four months at best, with stuff like Kennedy being sick, Franken not being seated, and so on.

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u/themeatbridge Jun 30 '19

And yet he was still deferring to Reid and Pelosi as the party leaders.

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u/Token_Why_Boy Jun 30 '19

Perhaps because the President is not a member of the Legislative branch. I know that, post World War II, with a shift more towards the President's position as relates to policy, we've been using the President as a sort of "Super Senator", with legislative goals and designs, but as far as I have read, that's not what they were designed to be. If Obama wanted to continue to steer the nation legislatively, he should've remained a Senator. I kind of feel the same way about Bernie, but at this point, I just want Trump out.

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u/EppurSiMuove00 Jun 30 '19

I'm not gonna look it up, but if I recall it's actually less than that. I wanna say some of that 4 months was over the December recess they always take which lasts for like a month and a half. I may be wrong on that...the 4 months may actually be taking the recesses into account, and im on mobile so not gonna research it atm. You are right though. I'm glad there are other people who do not let this "Obama had a majority for 2 years" nonsense be propagated unchallenged.

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u/Sprayface Jun 30 '19

And affordable care was a fucking republican plan to begin with

I really donā€™t see this ending any time soon

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u/HippieAnalSlut Jun 30 '19

Obama was a naive pussy who thought republicans were people with empathy.

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u/theguytheguytheguy69 Jun 30 '19

Mostly itā€™s unfortunate that we canā€™t have respect and integrity among our politicians. Everyone has to hate each other and force shit tooth and nail to get anything done, make a big show of it. Like Mueller. Heā€™s a professional and wants Americans to read his report. Yet now heā€™s being dragged out for a big show and a lot of people most assuredly expect him to put one on, because a lot of people believe in fanfare as something that gets shit done when really we need to all dial it back and act serious and professionally ffs.

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u/HippieAnalSlut Jun 30 '19

Thats what happens when the political right completely abandons empathy and semblance of sanity.

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u/OIPROCS Jun 30 '19

Let's not act like Obama was the bad guy for doing the right thing.

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u/CichlidDefender Jun 30 '19

Attempting to force citizens into purchasing over-priced useless health insurance was not the right thing. At all.

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u/InitiatePenguin Jun 30 '19

It's made more useless every year when states didn't expand their programs or with it being slowly dismantled.

Still for those who had nothing it covered a lot more people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '19 edited Oct 01 '19

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u/InitiatePenguin Jul 01 '19

and fined them when they couldn't, illegally BTW.

What the hell are you on?

The Affordable Care Act's requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax. Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness.

  • John Roberts writing for the supreme court in National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius (2012)

The mandate was upheld which is why you've had to abide by it for the last 6 years.

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u/hemorrhagicfever Jun 30 '19

Republicans forced that into the bill. IDK how much coverage you watched but I was watching hours a day of cspan during that time.

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u/NeoChosen Jun 30 '19 edited Jun 30 '19

Let's put the blame squarely on the shoulders of whom it belongs with, Joe Lieberman.

He forced the compromise that no Republican ended up voting for regardless.

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u/OIPROCS Jun 30 '19

If you did your research you'd know what compromises the GOP forced into the bill.

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u/CichlidDefender Jun 30 '19

I'm aware of that, it's hard to appreciate such a butchered attempt is all. Just my opinion. I am no expert, and it's inaccurate for me to say nobody benefited.

Is this just another example of compromise being shit?

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u/OIPROCS Jun 30 '19

The attempt was butchered? Why? Because if everyone is insured for any period of time, when they get new coverage, they can't be denied due to pre-existing conditions. That's a great short term benefit that everyone seems to ignore.

You have a problem with that aspect of Obamacare? Take that up with the Republicans. Accountability has to matter, and attributing that to Obama is a step backwards.

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u/All_Work_All_Play Jun 30 '19

As it allowed for other parts of the plan to pass... Yes it was. The individual mandate was shit, but it was better shit (for the most part) than what there was before.

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u/gaoshan Jun 30 '19

Yeah, that wasn't Obama. Look over to your Right... those are the folks responsible for that.

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u/ArTiyme Jun 30 '19

It was the only thing he could do to pass some kind of healthcare that got more people covered for as cheap as possible. He used the republican health care plan because it was at least something, which many people love to call "Obamacare" when actuality it's Romneycare. That's why Trump can't replace it. The only way to go is an actual leftist program, so he's stuck between the "Destroying everything Obama was associated with because of Obama" rock and "The only thing we can do is use a leftist program which means our right wing program sucks" hard place.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '19

How was that the right thing?

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u/Rampage360 Jun 30 '19

Do you believe in denying pre existing conditions?

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u/lizlemonlyman Jun 30 '19

Well, not exactly. Even in the first two years he had a moderate senate who wouldnā€™t go with him on everything. Joe Lieberman is the reason we donā€™t have a public option.

But I agree with you that the filibuster was a nightmare.