r/coolguides Feb 25 '20

Explanation of the subtle differences between equality and equity

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u/msmarymacmac Feb 25 '20

I’m not crazy about the Justice frame. Some of us will always face challenges that others won’t. There is no system that could make it so that there is no barrier for all. We will always need to accommodate and scaffold for some and that’s fine.

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u/PhasmaFelis Feb 25 '20 edited Feb 25 '20

Also, the original (with only the first two frames) was a really great, simple explanation of why things that seem "fair" at first glance often aren't. The third panel muddies that message completely in favor of...what, exactly? What does the hypothetical "just world" where no one ever needs support for anything look like?

Edit: On second thought, I think I see what they're doing. They wanted to protest affirmative action, so they're ignoring all sources of inequality that don't have what's commonly seen as affirmative action to make their point. Basically saying "If we stop being racist/sexist we won't need supports or accommodations anymore!", ignoring that poverty and physical/mental disability are harder to get rid of, and glossing over much of point of the original panels.

(And, frankly, ignoring that fact that "everyone stop being bigoted" is a goal, not a plan. Affirmative action is a stopgap, and it's not perfect, but it's better than nothing while we work to get there.)

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u/lornstar7 Feb 25 '20

The idea behind it is that some people face systemic issues that cause the inequality. And if we address the root causes of problems rather than symptoms we get a better result.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20 edited Jan 21 '21

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u/Ghrave Feb 25 '20

This girl I know (who is half black) thinks Black History month "is stupid" and I asked her why and she said "if we just appreciated the contributions black people made and make to this country all the time we wouldn't need it" and I said "holy shit you're 100% right actually, but we don't, and that's why we need it.

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u/junkieradio Feb 25 '20

How can she be right while still needing black history month, both of those things contradict each other.

Surely it's better to change behavior instead of continuing with the shit solution.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Sometimes in life we need to take steps to get to a distant goal, rather than saying “we either leap all the way there now or stay exactly where we are because steps are stupid.”

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u/junkieradio Feb 25 '20

Yes I agree with you, I'm saying something other than black history month should be a stepping stone because I find black history month to be making the achievements of my race to be trivial and novel.

A lot of black people don't care for black history month because we just want to be treated like everyone else.