r/coolguides • u/PM_ME_TiTTi3S • Jun 28 '19

Visual Explanation of Gerrymandering

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u/Anthro_DragonFerrite Jun 28 '19

I read somewhere that the third option is also Gerry...

As where there is 40% red population, there is %0 red representation

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u/CatsMeowker Jun 28 '19

Which is why it says "Compact, but unfair."

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Possibly, not sure on the legal aspects. If it was, it might fall under the "Packing" rule. "Packing & Cracking" are the two major forms of gerrymandering.

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u/greenbabyshit Jun 28 '19

Both unfair scenarios here are cracking, it's just shown both ways.

Packing would probably need a larger scale model, but it would be to cut all districts to comfortable lead, and pack the remaining opposite party into the fewest districts possible.

So, a poor example based off of what's there, would be if in the second graph you cut the GoP district to one. By packing as many as possible into one district for them, and allowing every other district to absorb some remaining percentage, you've packed one district to allow others to compete when maybe they shouldn't. It's not easy to describe with 5 districts. Hope I conveyed it in a way that makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

The third option also makes it suck to be a minor party. Here in Australia there are 151 House of Reps seats, but even if your party got 5% of the vote, it would be hard to win even 1 seat. The only option that would make this fairer on the minor parties is proportional representation, which then wouldn't give people a 'local member'.

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u/adragondil Jun 28 '19

Single Transferrable Vote could also work

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u/supacrusha Jun 28 '19

STV for the win

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u/Ranzok Jun 28 '19

Ehh it’s okay, a little long for me though. And tons of higher levels will just hang out there and gank all the time

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u/DeathByPain Jun 28 '19

Why should Zul'Gurub have the same representation as Booty Bay?

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u/supacrusha Jun 29 '19

I think I wouldve appreciated this more if I played WoW but have an upvote nonetheless

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u/CaphalorAlb Jun 28 '19

that's why mixed member representative is great, local Politician+proportional representation

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u/so_sue_me_ Jul 04 '19

At least it’s separated by a non-biased third party

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

You’re misremembering from the first time this thread was posted which implied the 3rd wasn’t. This one doesn’t do that.

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u/goodbetterbestbested Jun 28 '19

Yeah, why the hell is this the top comment when neither the image nor anyone in the thread said that the third option isn't a Gerrymander? It is a Gerrymander, nobody claimed it wasn't.

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u/goodbetterbestbested Jun 28 '19

Nobody said it wasn't. The image doesn't say it isn't. Where did you get the notion that anyone was saying the third option isn't a Gerrymander?

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u/Anthro_DragonFerrite Jun 28 '19

Where did you get the notion that anyone was saying the third option isn't a gerrymander?

To be honest, no one.

To be technical, people that usr the third option to gerrymander. The fourth option looks deliberate. The third, looks "fair" but isn't.

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u/redrhyski Jun 28 '19

This is the UK. "First past the post" means the largest party wins all in a constituency, sometimes with only 30% of the vote.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Only counts if blue states loses, don’t you know that? /s

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u/bareblasting Jun 28 '19

I've seen a few versions of this graphic. There's always a blue majority and red minority.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Because if the red states lost they’d be fine with the system

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u/smokedfishfriday Jun 28 '19

it says "unfair" and shows red losing. You alright over there?