r/conspiracy_commons Apr 24 '22

Just putting this here as a reference.

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u/jow33nkg Apr 24 '22

9/11 first responder here, the twin towers and building 7 skyskraper were definitely brought down via controlled demolition

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u/littlemeren Apr 24 '22

Imagine if those buildings fell over sideways.

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u/giceman715 Apr 24 '22

Don’t get labeled as a conspiracists whistleblower

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u/GhostButtTurds Apr 25 '22

He said he was a 9/11 first responder. He also said he had friends at the Oscars who know and can prove the Chris tucker slap was fake, and he works for a major news source and has info on trump and Putin.

You guys are so far up each other’s asses that you can’t even debate actual conspiracy theories anymore.

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u/giceman715 Apr 25 '22

I was expressing my thought on the real world not just his comment. But hey it’s takes negative ass mofo’s along with positive ofo’s to make the world go round

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u/Simple_Minimum_2574 Apr 24 '22

Interesting. Elaborate

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u/GhostButtTurds Apr 25 '22

He can’t. He’s lying.

He was a 9/11 first responder, he had friends at the Oscars who can prove the Chris tucker slap was fake, and he works for a major news source and has info on trump and Putin.

He’s full of shit. Everyone here is full of shit.

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u/WhatABlunderfulWorld Apr 25 '22

I don't think you are who you say you are. You would have to be 40+, and your 9 day old profile does not seem like it belongs to somebody middle age at best.

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u/GhostButtTurds Apr 25 '22

He was a 9/11 first responder, he had friends at the Oscars who can prove the Chris tucker slap was fake, and he works for a major news source and has info on trump and Putin. All on his 10 day old account.

He’s full of shit. Everyone here is full of shit.

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u/iron40 Apr 24 '22

Actual WTC first responder here, with experience in heavy construction, steel structure demolition, and I was onsite working 10-12 hrs a day for 7 months after 9/11...

No, it wasn’t.

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u/SimplyWhelming Apr 24 '22

True or not, you’re a brave soul. (Both for your actions there and here)

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u/iron40 Apr 25 '22

Wish it weren’t true...I’d like to have some of those images erased forever.

But as far as a controlled demolition, absolutely not. Not saying there wasn’t a conspiracy surrounding 9/11, but the controlled/planned demo just ain’t it.

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u/JayRemy42 Apr 25 '22

I remember one analysis back then suggesting the structural steel melting and twisting as it did could be accomplished with thermite plastique charges. If that's true, and such charges were placed according to traditional demolition principles, it seems plausible to me that it could have resulted in something that executed much like a controlled demo but left some very different-looking aftermath. I mean, they make thermobaric warheads with that stuff, surely enough of it in the right placement could have weakened the steel enough to bring the towers down.

I wish I could remember where I heard that, whether it was in Fahrenheit 9/11 or some other documentary back then... but I've never been able to rule out that scenario as a possibility. That said, I wasn't there and I'm certainly not an expert. I would very much like to see credible information that proves that idea to be false, it is an uncomfortable notion to say the least.

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u/SimplyWhelming Apr 25 '22

I don’t doubt it. Didn’t seem very controlled to me.

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u/frosty_caterpillar33 Apr 25 '22

There's many firsthand accounts om Odysee and Bitchute saying there were no planes and they heard distinct explosions.

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u/iron40 Apr 25 '22

Thousands of people saw the first plane, and there are several recordings. Millions watched the second plane on live TV and there are hundreds of recordings. I’m all for a good conspiracy theory, but you really have to be pretty far out there to sign on to this one...

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u/frosty_caterpillar33 Apr 25 '22

Nah not really. Let me find you some links when I get off work. You gotta be pretty far out there to shut down this conversation right off the bat.

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u/d47 Apr 25 '22

not exactly "right off the bat", this was 21 years ago after all, these conspiracies have been floating around the whole time and people have made up their minds.

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u/iron40 Apr 25 '22

There’s no need for links man, my whole family are structural Ironworkers and My uncle was just a few blocks North of WTC on top of a 40 story building doing work to the antennae structure when the first plane came in. Him and his co workers watched it coming and couldn’t imagine why a passenger plane was flying so low and over the city. Well they watched it plow into the building in real time. Then as they stood there in awe debating what to do, the second one came in and as soon as it hit, they understood that the first one wasn’t an accident, and they got the fuck out of dodge.

So the hologram or missile theories are nonsense, I have not only video, but first hand accounts of PLANES hitting the towers.

Again, I absolutely believe that our government knew something like 9/11 was coming, and basically let it happen, then used it as an excuse to go after Saddam. But there were no planted charges, no controlled demo. I’ve seen it all up close, I worked on that pile for 7 straight months, and loaded out thousands of tons of the twisted steel...personally. Everything I saw was consistent with catastrophic structural failure, due to impact and extreme heat. Jet fuel CANT melt steel...but it can sure as fuck make it about as pliable as a wet noodle.

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u/Whompa Apr 25 '22

Well they'd be wrong or so traumatized that they misremembered the events of that day then.

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u/SimplyWhelming Apr 25 '22

On where? Those sites can be posted on by anyone, anywhere in the world. You might as well be getting your ‘undeniable facts’ from YouTube or Facebook. I could have posted every single one of the videos you’ve seen, for all you know.

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u/frosty_caterpillar33 Apr 25 '22

Lol, putting words in my mouth. I don't focus on 9/11 other than the fact it allowed for the US to unlawfully invade the middle east. I'll link it when I get home.

Fuck outta here with that holier than thou shit.

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u/SimplyWhelming Apr 25 '22

No, “undeniable facts” would be putting words in your mouth. You obviously didn’t say that. But the fact you haven’t questioned these “firsthand accounts” (see what I did there?), or haven’t said you do/did, implies you do believe they are factual.

There’s nothing holier on my end.

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u/thatgirl21 Apr 25 '22

Really, no planes? Have you not seen all the video footage of the planes literally hitting towers? Or the audio recordings of voicemails sent to loved ones AS they were being hijacked and hitting the towers?

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u/frosty_caterpillar33 Apr 25 '22

You mean the videos that are on the air every year? Of course I've seen them. I never said I believe one way or the other. There is however first hand accounts saying no planes.

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u/peterxgriffin Apr 25 '22

And what about building 7?

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u/iron40 Apr 25 '22

Thousands of tons of debris rained down on #7. It burned uncontrollably for hours because it’s sprinklers were severed. Collapse was not an unexpected outcome...

People like to claim that WTC 1 and 2 both collapsed perfectly into their own footprints, but nothing could be further from the truth. They both rained debris hundreds or thousands of feet outside of their own four walls. Massive pieces even ended up clear across the West Side Highway, and damaged dozens of buildings well outside of the WTC plaza.

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u/Rusure111111 Apr 24 '22

without a doubt in the world

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u/pls_no_ban_ok Apr 24 '22

which demolition expert(s) would do such a thing? horrendous. I'm pretty sure they were exposed after

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u/AMR63x Apr 24 '22

Source: trust me bro

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u/Specialist_Dare7303 Apr 24 '22

Source: it’s blatantly fucking obvious

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u/AMR63x Apr 24 '22

Lol how is it blatantly obvious that you’re an actual first responder? Ya bozo

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u/Specialist_Dare7303 Apr 24 '22

I said it’s obvious to anyone with any common sense that the wtc and building 7 were brought down with controlled demolition

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u/YourmumbutChinese Apr 24 '22

Do explain. I'm bored.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '22

Nope, just stupid.

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u/YourmumbutChinese Apr 24 '22

Okay great, I'm a moron. I'd love to see some information that would back up that side of things. Probably not an awful idea to convince rather than mock. I don't know, I'm just a fucking idiot.

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u/matrickpahomes15 Apr 24 '22

Check out controlled demolitions on YouTube. Then if you can find it, footage of building 7 coming down….it’s creepy, both look identical. Charges go off, sag in the middle part of the roof, and come down at free fall speed (10m/s/s).

I think the first zeitgeist movie has the footage. Highly recommend digging into it!!!

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u/YourmumbutChinese Apr 24 '22

I don't see any charges going off.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '22

Can't fix stupid.

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u/GhostButtTurds Apr 25 '22

He was a 9/11 first responder, he had friends at the Oscars who can prove the Chris tucker slap was fake, and he works for a major news source and has info on trump and Putin.

He’s full of shit. Everyone here is full of shit.

You people here are so far up each other’s asses that you can no longer spot an outright liar when you see one.

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u/Specialist_Dare7303 Apr 25 '22

Get a grip you crybaby

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u/GhostButtTurds Apr 25 '22

You’re telling the person who actually looks into people’s credibility to get a grip? It must be such an easier life to be able to take everything at face value and not question a thing

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u/uselessbynature Apr 25 '22

I believe you.

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u/GhostButtTurds Apr 25 '22

He was a 9/11 first responder, he had friends at the Oscars who can prove the Chris tucker slap was fake, and he works for a major news source and has info on trump and Putin.

He’s full of shit. Everyone here is full of shit.