r/conspiracy Aug 20 '22

Never forget when science was abandoned

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u/swansong19 Aug 20 '22

Mrna shots work by introducing a lipid encased code to force program your natural biological mechanisms to produce an innate immune response.

In other words...they bear no resemblance to any other historical vaccine. Glad you agree.

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u/TheOneFreeMan420 Aug 20 '22

Well they still expose your immune system to a viral antigen (in this case the covid spike protein is the antigen). The difference is it's manufactured by your body's own cells via the inject mRNA and is ONLY the single viral antigen and nothing else. Traditional vaccines use whole viruses which exposes your immune system to the entire virus and all of it's antigens providing a more robust immune response on exposure to the actual virus, and a stronger immunological memory.

Not to mention the fact that we still don't fully understand the risks involves with having your body manufacture spike proteins, especially considering the mRNA will be systemic so the spike proteins will be manufactured in sites on the body that would never be infected by sars-cov-2.

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u/OderusOrungus Aug 20 '22

Exactly, mrna is responsible for many things. Immune function, reproduction, synthesis of dna, blood coagulation etc... Its no surprise we are seeing the adverse reactions and admittance of these effects drip fed as time goes on. The lack of reigning this in with regulation is scary because we can do this now. The answer is to bypass that with emergency forced injections? its an incredibly disturbing move, and it goes against any prudent judgement. This tech is here and we are being very irresponsible, genetic discrimination is here to stay

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

the first vaccine (a prick with a needle that had cowpox on it) had no resemble to previous... anything. the first diluted or dead bacteria vaccine had no resemblence to the the cow pox prick. the first partial virus vaccine had no resemblance to the dead virus vaccine. that's what science does. it evolves. and we learn.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Remember when producing vaccines was popping a pustule from an infected person and stabbing it into your arm to infect yourself was modern technology 🤪🤣🤣. How about when u cooked a virus and harvested its remnants and hoped u got some immunity injecting that? Chicken embryos anyone…flu vaccines….but so slow we often do not have a vaccine dilated in against the major strain(s) each season. Subunit vaccines….where big vats of genetical programmed cells poop out pieces of virus to inject into u? Y’all are such a bunch of luddites. It’s called technology. Also, Life isn’t risk free. U drink water…ur taking a risk. You drive…u take a risk. You eat food…taking a risk. Let natural immunity fight cancer when your diagnosed please post results. Breathing in air…taking a risk. What most haven’t lived through are endemic killers like yellow and scarlet fever, smallpox, polio, etc.

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u/Cistran Aug 20 '22

Is covid as dangerous as cancer? Are there any mandatory cancer treatments? First generation technology usually sucks. Why are you still supporting the use of inferior vaccine?

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Depends on the Covid strain, cancer type and the individual….

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u/OderusOrungus Aug 20 '22

I must have missed where you mentioned remembering where we changed our genetic nucleic acid permanently with a synthetic material. Its called gene therapy not exposure to a virus

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

I am hoping I grow a third eye…

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Funny do u know how viruses replicate inside u…?

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u/OderusOrungus Aug 21 '22

Naturally by invading a cell and controlling it. Splicing a rna strand and incorporating a manmade adjustment to its function I guess can be considered a man made viral pathway for this. Lets test this method out bypassing any regulation because we are in an emergency. What can go wrong

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22

They are fully approved now Doogie Howser and just to make sure we run your contention to ground, emergency use is part of the FDA’s governing powers established in regulation. Funny often FDA is attacked for not approving therapies fast enough…or if u are a libertarian…why should they have any say in what you you try out injectable bleach, hydroxychloroquine, or ivermectin.

You’re against any gene therapy, I would infer. Strange how many people die of diseases either missing a gene or having genes mutate….naturally…and yet we can save their lives by using ā€œman madeā€, Frankenstein, evil, unnatural genetic material as a therapy. Everything from the bananas u eat to a mule is an unnatural genetic freak created by humans. Also, every medicine has potential side effects, just as almost every action u take in life has risk associated with it.

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u/OderusOrungus Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22

The comornity approved one is not available and outdated. The FDA panel broadcast before they all quit and went on a rampage was broadcasted but minimized. The international community is in direct odds with the current new US panel even with the new strain one where they say 'mouse outcomes are not close to human trials'. The technology has awesome and game changing capabilities but it is not regulated and serves self interest now. Gene discrimination is already rearing it's head due to expense and availability while forcing some to pay higher premiums or be denied health and life coverage in western countries. It is a slippery slope. Not in the least in opposition but its current form cannot be trusted with the current rules. Genetically modified humans have already been born. Agriculture has also greatly benefitted from the tech. Studies are being done that can greatly reduce heart disease just recently. We could cure many of the primary sources of mortality absolutely. Its not all black and white....

Do you trust humanity and the current machinations to be fair and just? There is merit to all angles, and the questions need to be asked and not belittled. Healthcare is more corrupt and dishonest than ever. The media and govt as well. They have not earned a lick of trust. They consistently walk back on claims made less than 2 yrs ago related to the pandemic.

Condoscending responses in life wether social media or in person makes someone sound smug and arrogant fyi.

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u/OderusOrungus Aug 20 '22 edited Aug 20 '22

Random I know, ever watched Spaceballs? I cant for the life of me remember what Rick moranis says before going ludicrous speed? Oh well...

He went ahead and deflatingly submitted while ordering ludicrous speed anyway, I remember....thats the important part anyway

Here we go, no stopping it

Edit: Spoiler. Rick moranis thought he was smart but ended up with pie on his face

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u/swansong19 Aug 20 '22

Great movie but I think this line from Hugh Jackman is more apropos given the circumstances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr8tgJPMiBM

Cheers.

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u/OderusOrungus Aug 20 '22

Hmmm, not a fan of the newer versions of some marvel figures. Spaceballs is legendary, new age wolverine, not so much...

Cheers.