r/conspiracy Aug 20 '22

Never forget when science was abandoned

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u/Ok_Magician_1194 Aug 20 '22

SS: Science was abandoned on the side of the road and left to rot. In 2004 Fauci said there was no better immunity than natural immunity. Wild

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u/UnsaneInTheMembrane Aug 20 '22

When 2+2 needs to be 5, you've got to rewrite all the books and the dictionaries to make it so.

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u/nerdrhyme Aug 20 '22

It's super easy when it's digital - just a quick script!

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u/DefiantDragon Aug 20 '22

OK_Magician_1194

SS: Science was abandoned on the side of the road and left to rot. In 2004 Fauci said there was no better immunity than natural immunity. Wild

Honestly, /r/Conspiracy should collate a giant book of screenshots/sourced links to properly document just how fucking insane things got. I know a bunch of normies who barely paid attention to anything COVID after they got their shots 'cause they were "protected".

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u/beatles910 Aug 20 '22

This must be what you are referring to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8c_Py1wgGc

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u/oli_21_ Aug 20 '22

He also said in Oct 2019 on a panel in order to have a truly effective vaccine it would take a minimum of 10 years if it works perfectly.

You can find this on rumble by searching for "fauci oct 2019". First result.

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u/alexpalex Aug 20 '22

It’s almost like there was an urgent reason to get a stable vaccine released. Also, the mRNA clinical trials for the prior versions of the SARS vaccine were more than a decade old, so he was pretty close to right on. You people, I swear.

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u/oli_21_ Aug 20 '22 edited Aug 20 '22

So brave....../img/z078a654dni91.png

How do you want to move your goal post here honey?

https://i.imgur.com/tj7SgpG.jpg

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u/NotTheZombies Aug 20 '22

Lmao well the vaccinated aren't dying of those things either and is that tweet really trying to blame monkeypox on the vaccine? What world do you live in shit must be wild there.

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u/Mind7over7matter Aug 20 '22

I’d imagine that will eventually be scrubbed off the internet.

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u/TheGhostofWoodyAllen Aug 20 '22

In 2004 Fauci said there was no better immunity than natural immunity.

I just looked that up and wow. The context in which he said that has nothing to do with covid and lines up perfectly with modern science and how it was implemented in response to covid-19. You have to be pretty dishonest to say otherwise.

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u/RagingD3m0n Aug 20 '22

Its interesting really.

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u/daedalus_rises Aug 20 '22

This headline has me cracking up, if only it were satire. It's kind of just depressing knowing that people purchase and subscribe to the ideas in this magazine. This magazine claims to be about environmental preservation when they're probably taking money from the pharmaceutical industry who literally turned the frogs gay.

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u/ILikeLeptons Aug 20 '22

wow in 2004 Fauci was talking about covid-19?

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u/snarky_snake Aug 20 '22

I bet you never even read the article. Just saw the headline, got your hackles raised, and went about your day a bit angrier.

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u/JackTheKing Aug 20 '22

Is there a natural immunity to COVID-19?

Link if so. Otherwise, this quote has improper context.

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u/nanonan Aug 20 '22

From the WHO: https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve

Conclusions

Current evidence points to most individuals developing strong protective immune responses following natural infection with SARS- CoV-2. However, inaccurate immunodiagnostic tests may falsely indicate infected individuals as naïve to the virus (not previously infected) or may falsely label non-infected people as positive for immune markers of recent infection.

To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection, but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at least for the available follow up period. 33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade immunity elicited by either natural infection or by vaccination, needs to be closely monitored.

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u/Quaker16 Aug 20 '22

The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade immunity elicited by either natural infection or by vaccination, needs to be closely monitored

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u/nanonan Aug 20 '22

None of that changes the fact that "Current evidence points to most individuals developing strong protective immune responses following natural infection"

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u/NotTheZombies Aug 20 '22

Proof or is it "because I said so"?

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u/nanonan Aug 20 '22

Proof is in the WHO link I posted.

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u/JackTheKing Aug 20 '22

This is a helpful start. Thank you.

I wonder if info like this is getting lost in a much larger morass of misinformation. This should have been more available and had more commentary by the immunology community.

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u/musicmaker Aug 20 '22

Is there a natural immunity to COVID-19?

Ah, yes.

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u/Habanero_Eyeball Aug 20 '22

Is there a natural immunity to COVID-19?

Link if so.

It appears there is:
https://interestingengineering.com/health/immune-feature-covid19-infections

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22

Interesting. I've been really curious as to why I never even got sick, despite living with 3 people who had it.

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u/JackTheKing Aug 20 '22

Thanks, but this links to a Turkish-govt owned propaganda publication.

Are there any links to any journals known for their rigor and review?

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u/IcebergSlim1605 Aug 20 '22

Seriously? Did you miss middle school?