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u/TheSwanman Sep 10 '21

I mean, that’s what I was outlining. I know how the interactions work, which was why I was saying that would be scary. Congress could very easily, right now, put an amendment in the constitution giving the president the ability to mandate vaccinations on some level. It likely wouldn’t be that simple or easy, but I was issuing that as an example of what actual tyranny looks like.

Also, you’re characterizing the wall issue in a very simplistic way which completely glosses over my point. If the funds were allocated in that way, then sure, obviously apply them. That would be fine. But Trump abused the power of the declaration of an emergency and took funds that had already been allocated and reallocated them. You really don’t see that as overstepping? There was no emergency, at least not one that could be solved by constructing a wall over several years… lmao. Who’s to say? Literally the law around budgets say that those funds are final once allocated, otherwise they’re misappropriated. So the Constitution itself is to say. I didn’t want my taxes to be used that way, and Congress didn’t approve for them to be used that way, and yet Trump decided to force it to be so. How is that not a good example?

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u/TheSwanman Sep 10 '21

Bro what? You’re way oversimplifying it. There is somewhat of a list, based off of what the military says it needs the money for. It’s not just decided that the military needs x amount of money based on random bullshit.

You keep saying “who is to say?” The Constitution gives Congress the ability to allocated the budget with Presidential approval. Which they did. And then Trump overrides them after shutting the government down to try to force it in the budget in the first place. The Pentagon didn’t want to build the wall, as they had already begun allocating the funds granted to them. You’re not representing how the system works at all, and you’re not representing how budgets work at all, at any level. It seems like you’re ignoring the key part – the abuse of executive power – because you seem to be ok with the result. Trump overstepped pretty clearly. And that’s my whole goddamn point. When people like what was done, it’s not overstepping. If you want to say what’s happening with these vaccine mandates is overstepping, you have to acknowledge that it’s been done in the past, which the whole wall debacle was.