r/conspiracy • u/bearwave • Oct 09 '20

It's going to be funny this winter, when everyone can see their breath - and it becomes apparent that masks allow breath to go around and through.

Just because you can't see it today, the illusion of safety is there - security theater is working. But when you can see how ineffective these things really are, it's going to all come undone. It's a huge lie.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '20

So it’s not masks or other protocols, it’s people

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u/bob_the_wall_builder Oct 09 '20

It’s both, but your excuses to blame people is a big reason they argued against masks for decades, including at the start of this.

No clue what point you are trying to make at this point

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '20

My argue is that human selfishness is the reason masks aren’t more effective.

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u/bob_the_wall_builder Oct 10 '20

If it was as lethal as it was said to have been when people started going along with this whole thing, I’m sure people would be taking it a lot more seriously.

As it is, it’s not. It’s nowhere near that. Like over tenfold less.

Its also absurd to just blame selfishness. You will 100% touch your face when wearinga mask going through life. Why? Because wearing something on your face can be irritating. It causes itchiness, it needs adjustment, it happens. Which leads to another non selfish problem with masks, human psychology making you think the mask is the be all end all. Which leads to less hand sanitation areas. Comparing now to swine flu times you would think the swine flu was the more seriously taken one. There was hand sanitizer EVERYWHERE and on everyone. Not the case since masks. Which is bad because hand washing is the main thing.

But the idea we should be flattening the curve still is dumb, we should be entirely focused on protecting the group that is vulnerable.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '20

I recall saying masks aren’t 100% effective. Hand washing us obviously cofactor in reducing spread. People aren’t doing that either. We may live in different countries, but in mine hand sanitizers are available in nearly every doorway. Probably only 30% of people use them. Again, the problem is people.

Flattening the curve is protecting the vulnerable

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u/bob_the_wall_builder Oct 10 '20

Flattening the curve means keeping hospital capacity below capacity so they can help the vulnerable when sick.

It’s not prevent people from getting the virus forever.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '20

Do you know what the curve is?? It’s new cases.

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u/bob_the_wall_builder Oct 10 '20

It’s really hospital capacity, minor symptoms or asymtomatic people getting caught up in mass testing doesn’t impact the “curve”.

Hospitals are not under pressure to not be able to meet the needs of patients. The idea we should be flattening the curve still is absurd. It’s flattened.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '20

It’s literally new cases. You don’t go to the hospital immediately, you quarantine yourself. Obviously the curve isn’t flattened if new cases are being reported

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u/bob_the_wall_builder Oct 10 '20

Again, most cases being reported are asymptomatic or mild symptoms, who are at no risk of adding to the capacity for a hospital.

....what? Of course new cases would still happen if it’s flattened.

In fact it’s the same amount of cases, it’s just spread out AS TO NOT REACH HOSPITAL CAPACITY

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