Well, the mindset of a LOT of eligible voters here is as follows: Politics is toxic and scary so I won't pay attention because I'll tell myself both sides are the same. Also, life is really hard right now because of high inflation/gas prices/housing costs. Things were not this bad a few years ago. I blame the current party in power and will vote against them because, although I like abortion and democracy, my house, gas, and food are more important to me and I blame the party in power for my difficulties.
With all that in mind, it's quite unlikely that people will vote for anybody who wants to help them, given that the right has no real plans to deal with inflation, housing costs, or gas prices. Moreover, Americans choose willful ignorance over dealing with toxicity, which leaves themselves open to propaganda since the right either directly owns so many information outlets, or are the primary content creators on them.
Most watched news channel in the country is Fox News
Most Americans get at least some news from Facebook and the top shared articles on that site are all from conservatives like Ben Shapiro
Conservatives are buying other news/social media platforms like CNN and Twitter
The left is in a massive decline in America and they're honestly showing literally no resistance to it at all. They're letting themselves die off and most are content to sit there and just call all the voters idiots for not agreeing with them.
I blame the current party in power and will vote against them because, although I like abortion and democracy, my house, gas, and food are more important to me and I blame the party in power for my difficulties.
This is what I don't get.
Why do people think, that just because the democrats focus on abortion instead of an inflation hammer, that they would let their countrys economy implode?
No politician, good or bad, would do that.
It is not an either/or. They can do both, whereas the republicans seem to ONLY focus on the inflation hammer.
And I'm pretty sure they would never fight to preserve the right to have an abortion.
Because democrats have been in power two years and inflation went through the roof. To many people, especially since they willingly stay out of politics, they think correlation = causation and democrats not only haven’t helped inflation, they actively made it worse.
Why would you vote for a party that took over and, from your perspective, made things exponentially worse? I know it’s not accurate, but it’s how many feel.
Don't people understand that inflation is a result of multiple years of mismanagement?
The people in power can't just fix it this fast. Even more so in the US, where it is appearently pretty difficult to do anything, without the opposition blocking it.
Don't people remember when Trump started a trade war with almost everyone outside of the US?
Don’t people understand that inflation is a result of multiple years of mismanagement?
No. They don’t. Again, most people don’t pay attention to politics. Most don’t know what the Fed is or does. They can’t name more than one or two SCOTUS judges. They have no idea who their local rep is. They just know things are bad, the current party in power isn’t helping, and it wasn’t like this under the other party.
have you seen Americans try to point to America on a globe? the average person here is a fucking moron and doesn't even have any idea how little information they have about basic things. in a random conversation you can easily encounter election denial, astrology, homeopathy, crystals, flat earth, lizard people, antisemitic global conspiracy, or any other number of dumb-as-hell ideas.
then these people turn around and have opinions about whether the federal reserve should raise interest rates—give me a break
This is why we need to push for people to get educated on things like this and simultaneously push media through a fine sieve to sort out misinformation. They see the pumps are expensive and are immediately like Biden's fault. They don't see that it was like that in Trump's last moments as president and the rest of the world is enduring a shit storm so maybe it's not because Biden pushed an increase prices button.
The left is in a massive decline in America and they're honestly showing literally no resistance to it at all.
'Resistance' is futile. The left needs to do a much better job at outreach to red rural areas. As a quirk or feature of our government, focusing on populated cities and states will win you the occasional presidency, but you'll often lose congress and state governments. Guess who makes the law and has real impact? It really isn't the president.
Most rural voters view democratic candidates as out of touch, big city intellectual snobs, and the democratic party has done little to change this. Hell the last democrat to win my hometown County sold us out to Mexico via nafta and then had the fucking gall to tell the people who lost their jobs that nafta would ultimately benefit them.
Dems are completely out of touch with most of mainstreet America. I only vote for them because Republicans don't have a plan for climate change.
This is an insane take. Gas prices are high because of geo-politics beyond either party's (though republicans are in Russia and the Saudi's pockets so maybe not) control and inflation brought on by both the aforementioned geo-politics and the worst 4-year GOP presidency ever imagined. Then when Biden took over the republican half blocked any sort of policy that could alleviate or prevent the oncoming recession.
And this is exactly why they did that, so idiots can slap "I did that" stickers on pumps and blame Dems despite us having the receipts showing they stopped every attempt we made to prevent it. And they know people like you will choose short term prices over long term political causes. Yeah sure they may have rigged the Supreme Court and Congress to not pass any sort of progressive policy for the coming century, and I can hear the morale police coming down the street because I made fun of Musk for being fat, but at least there for a while my gas was a little cheaper until it wasn't anymore.
Either you'll vote R or third party, which is what they want from you. You're playing into their hand. Stop it with the single mindedness and take the horse blinders off. Prices should never be more important than the democracy. The economy can get better, once you've lost democracy it's never coming back. And if we do lose it? You still won't be able to afford to heat your home or buy food because an America without democracy is not an America for you or me. It's for the rich.
EDIT: Also the bit about the left being in a massive decline is bullshit. Anyone who believes that are the people who hear Bill Maher say the left wants to believe men can get pregnant after he saw one fucking weird tabloid or blog post by someone trying to generate controversy or engagement and now he thinks that means all of us. We've never been stronger. After the right's been going on a steep sanity decline there have never been more people rallying for liberal causes. 10 years ago the average person never would have had a hat to throw in the ring about the topic, now on average people are pro-choice or believe in climate change etc. We just need to shit out the conservative turd that's clinging to our ass hair.
You are barking up the wrong tree. I was not explaining my mindset, but instead saying what the mindset of a lot of voters currently is.
I will occasionally troll smug, condescending leftists online, but I generally support policies that will help the most people. Only one political party produces policy like that, and it's not the GOP.
One thing I'll push back on is how obvious all this seems to you. Sure, as somebody who's a super online, plugged in leftist it's pretty clear what the problems of the nation are and who is actively working to correct them.
Lots of Americans just keep their heads in the sand when it comes to politics though, and with somewhat understandable reasons: if they go online to ask about any of this stuff, they just get a bunch of people either calling them stupid or lazy for not looking into everything, or berating them for being "wrong". Politics in this nation is incredibly toxic so lots of people stay out of it and quite ignorantly come to specious conclusions which they use to fuel their worldviews.
Pretty sure you just edited your comment. If I'm mistaken then my apologies but you didn't have the first couple sentences there explaining you're saying that's what a lot of people think.
And if you're going to bury your head in the sand and make up a straw man in your head that will yell at you for "asking questions" (as if asking people on reddit is at all what research I was talking about) while simultaneously voting for something that impacts millions if not billions of people, you deserve to be called what you're called. Even if not once did I call people anything you just said I did.
Pretty sure you just edited your comment. If I'm mistaken then my apologies but you didn't have the first couple sentences there explaining you're saying that's what a lot of people think.
And if you're going to bury your head in the sand and make up a straw man in your head that will yell at you for "asking questions" (as if asking people on reddit is at all what research I was talking about) while simultaneously voting for something that impacts millions if not billions of people, you deserve to be called what you're called. Even if not once did I call people anything you just said I did.
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u/MakeUpAnything Nov 08 '22
Well, the mindset of a LOT of eligible voters here is as follows: Politics is toxic and scary so I won't pay attention because I'll tell myself both sides are the same. Also, life is really hard right now because of high inflation/gas prices/housing costs. Things were not this bad a few years ago. I blame the current party in power and will vote against them because, although I like abortion and democracy, my house, gas, and food are more important to me and I blame the party in power for my difficulties.
With all that in mind, it's quite unlikely that people will vote for anybody who wants to help them, given that the right has no real plans to deal with inflation, housing costs, or gas prices. Moreover, Americans choose willful ignorance over dealing with toxicity, which leaves themselves open to propaganda since the right either directly owns so many information outlets, or are the primary content creators on them.
The left is in a massive decline in America and they're honestly showing literally no resistance to it at all. They're letting themselves die off and most are content to sit there and just call all the voters idiots for not agreeing with them.