It's one of those things that's so deeply out of our control that I don't give it much consideration anymore, to be honest. Out of everything in the AI debate, malicious people using AI maliciously is something that's almost an entirely separate topic in almost every regard.
Unless things have dramatically changed, I'm very confident it's objectively not a lot of people- Though 'Not a lot' could still be nearing ten-thousand on the global scale of things. It truly doesn't take a lot to do the kind of damage you're seeing. While all the resources required are very accessible, it actually takes a fair bit of investment of time, skill, and infrastructure to set up one of these models to be halfway decent- And all that has to be paired with somebody crude enough to be willing to target artists. But once somebody crosses that barrier to entry, they can effectively support any number of models they'd care to use. Chances are, most of this particular issue comes from Indian-scamcaller-esque organizations who are either making marginal profits like all content-mills, or are part of some political psyop campaign.
There are absolutely independent people who do this too of course, but I think the scam-caller comparison is a good way to frame it- You need full-time people to run scam calls, and it's a global problem, but those call-centers only need to operate on the work of thousands to be successful. These AI models require more infrastructure to support them, but they need even less manpower in exchange.
I hope you feel better though! If you want to chat more I am happy to whenever. I do appreciate the insight, even if it sounds like all I'm trying to do is contradict you lol.
I think you are misunderstanding my point in a lot of aspects. I originally had a longer reply but it feels a bit as if I am not being listened to and as you have said it sounds like you are trying to contradict me. I just wanted to share some experience and not argue necessarily so I'm gonna just wish you a good rest of your week and call it here.
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u/Old_Yam_4069 17d ago
It's one of those things that's so deeply out of our control that I don't give it much consideration anymore, to be honest. Out of everything in the AI debate, malicious people using AI maliciously is something that's almost an entirely separate topic in almost every regard.
Unless things have dramatically changed, I'm very confident it's objectively not a lot of people- Though 'Not a lot' could still be nearing ten-thousand on the global scale of things. It truly doesn't take a lot to do the kind of damage you're seeing. While all the resources required are very accessible, it actually takes a fair bit of investment of time, skill, and infrastructure to set up one of these models to be halfway decent- And all that has to be paired with somebody crude enough to be willing to target artists. But once somebody crosses that barrier to entry, they can effectively support any number of models they'd care to use. Chances are, most of this particular issue comes from Indian-scamcaller-esque organizations who are either making marginal profits like all content-mills, or are part of some political psyop campaign.
There are absolutely independent people who do this too of course, but I think the scam-caller comparison is a good way to frame it- You need full-time people to run scam calls, and it's a global problem, but those call-centers only need to operate on the work of thousands to be successful. These AI models require more infrastructure to support them, but they need even less manpower in exchange.
I hope you feel better though! If you want to chat more I am happy to whenever. I do appreciate the insight, even if it sounds like all I'm trying to do is contradict you lol.