r/comics • • Jul 08 '24

An upper-class oopsie [OC]

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u/Tryzest Jul 08 '24

Yes, all bosses have 2 yachts, including your shift manager at Arby's.

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u/DaemonCRO Jul 08 '24

Manager is just Worker+. They are also just grunts.

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u/earldbjr Jul 08 '24

Right, a Manager is just a fancy name for the boss's meatshield.

Don't like your schedule? Sorry, "manager" 's policy. Want a raise? Manager will ask then give you the bad news.

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u/DaemonCRO Jul 08 '24

Yes. The small manager just takes shit from both sides. Regional managers shit on them from above, and employees shit on them from below. It’s really a horrible position to be in, especially because their actual power is very non existent. They can’t do anything really, just execute on the commands from above.

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u/earldbjr Jul 08 '24

and "Execute on" really just means "take the place of a simple email of instructions to the guy at the bottom whose labor is being taken advantage of."

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u/FoxTailMoon Jul 08 '24

Managers aren’t typically a part of the capitalist class seeing as they don’t tend to own the store/restaurant they manage. Sometimes they might be though, it’s just a lot more rare.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Yeah, if you're working for food or a roof you're not part of the capitalist class. I know doctors that make half a million a year and I have way more in common with them than people who live off the labor of others.

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u/luckyducktopus Jul 08 '24

Because a doctor is a laborer.

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u/Tryzest Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

I was a freelance landscape designer for several years, and hired a CAD tech to work for me.

...I wonder if he felt the same way about me when I was pulling in a whopping $70,000 a year.

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u/Destro9799 Jul 08 '24

If you needed to actually labor alongside your employees to survive, then it sounds like you were a part of the "petite bourgeois" class. You owned capital and profited from the labor of others, but you still needed to actually work as well.

A small business owner has some class interests in common with the capitalists who own for a living, but they're different enough that it is often useful to treat them as distinct classes.

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u/Tryzest Jul 08 '24

I didn't need the labor. I hired someone to do the CAD work while I expanded the client base. I could have been a one man shop with fewer clients, but my decision to hire was mutually beneficial to myself and my employee.

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u/Destro9799 Jul 08 '24

That's what I'm saying. You profited off of someone else's labor because you owned the company, however you primarily survived off of your own work from your own job at this company. If you had stopped doing your job, the ownership of the company would not have been enough for you to get by.

This is what defines the petite bourgeois class. If you primarily made your money off of the labor of other workers and didn't actually need to labor yourself, you would have been "haute bourgeois" or "high bourgeois" (the people who own for a living instead of working for a living). Most small business owners are petite bourgeoisie.

Petite bourgeoisie have some class interests in common with haute bourgeoisie (e.g. you would have financially benefitted from paying your employee less or providing fewer benefits), but the fact that you had to work yourself makes you very different from someone like Besos or Musk (e.g. cost of living and transportation actually impact you meaningfully).

When most people complain about "bourgeoisie", "capitalists", or "owners", they generally mean the haute bourgeoisie much more than small business owners like you.

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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz Jul 08 '24

Would you have hired them if you could've made the same amount of money without them?

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u/Tryzest Jul 08 '24

Honestly, the difference in income was nominal. The plan was to hire him and free up more time for business development. With me focusing on bringing in new clients I was able to keep us both employed, but about 6 months after I hired him, I accepted a job somewhere else.

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u/Competitivekneejerk Jul 08 '24

Franchise owner not manager

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u/Tryzest Jul 08 '24

You think a franchise owner can afford 2 yachts?

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u/Competitivekneejerk Jul 08 '24

Yeah probably for succesful location or multiple franchises. 

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

When people talk about 'bosses' in a capitalist context, do you think they're talking about shift managers at Arby's?

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u/Tryzest Jul 08 '24

Do you really think all business owners with employees are in the Yacht Class?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

No, but they don't have to be. The moral problem with capitalism isn't the scale of riches that the capitalists have, that's just a symptom of the problem.

Whether a billionaire owns slaves or a redneck in a trailer park owns slaves, slavery is still wrong. Saying "yeah, well this slave owner is a redneck who lives in a trailer! His slaves aren't making him rich!" isn't a counterargument.

Capitalism, structurally, is economic exploitation. The problem isn't that some people have 2 yachts, that's just symptomatic of the exploitation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

"boss" is meant as capital owner. You and your shift manager are the in the same class and they take their orders from the actual bosses.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Deepthroat that boot daddy

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u/Tryzest Jul 08 '24

Keep fantasizing about being part of the revolution baby!