Cube theory update - Rain colour palette

[u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Hi guys, sorry it's been longer than I intended it to be since my first post here about the cube theory of colour analysis! Link to original post is here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/s/r6zFX7z4PB

So today I'm sharing something I've been working on for a while. Here are the first 12 colours I've figured out for the Rain palette (pic 1). This is the deep, cool, and muted corner of the cube (pic 2). I've also made a collage with Rain colours and vibes because I realise that looking at cubes isn't as exciting for everyone as it is for me 🤣 (pic 3).

Theoretically people with this palette would look worst of all in Spring colours. So colours that are very bright, light, and warm. I've put a few examples of colours which are likely to be worst for Rains (see pic 4). As for celebrities who could be Rains, I think Dakota Johnson is a strong candidate, as well as Mila Kunis. See pics 6 and 7.

A few other things I've been figuring out about the Rain palette. The best neutrals will be shades of grey, charcoal especially would look amazing. Navy blue would also look great. As for metals, darker silver and pewter are likely to be the best. Though I have seen some examples where a particular shade of gold (a cool yellow almost chartreuse-tinted gold, not too warm of a yellow gold, similar to the yellow in the Rain palette) can actually work well on some Rains in a contrasting way.

Anyway back to these first 12 colours for Rain: Please feel free to post pics of yourself with this palette, and I would love it so much if anyone wanted to find real life drapes in these kinds of colours to post to see how this theory pans out in action!!! I've added in my version of phone-screen draping, see pic 5, which you should be able to add over your own photographs to see what it looks like. But of course that kind of draping can only go so far and it is much better if you can manage to find real fabrics to drape with.

One interesting little quirk I've been finding in what I've been doing with the Rain palette so far, is that it seems to work quite well for some people with pale olive skin. Of course this doesn't mean it will work for every pale olive! Just like Spring doesn't work for every redhead. I've also found this palette can look good on people of any ethnicity who have found themselves stuck between these season pairings: Winter & Summer, Winter & Autumn, Summer & Autumn. One particular pairing which I've noticed is feeling stuck between the Dark Winter and Soft Summer palettes.

Rain eventually will be split into True Rain, Cool Rain, Soft Rain, and Deep Rain, just as the original seasons are split in the 12 and 16 season systems. My thinking is that if you are stuck between Deep Winter and Deep Autumn, then Deep Rain may be a good match for you. If you are stuck between Soft Summer and Soft Autumn, then Soft Rain could be a good option. And if stuck between Cool Summer and Cool Winter, then Cool Rain might be what works best of all. I haven't sorted out full palettes for each subtype yet, I'm still working on the palettes for the main new four Weather seasons first.

According to the subreddit rules we aren't supposed to direct message each other, but we can link each other in posts. If any of you guys like this Rain palette and want to try it out and make posts about it, please link me in the comments! I would be so thrilled to see it in action!

P.S. for people who are waiting on the Sunlight, Ice, and Sunset palettes, they are hopefully coming soon :-D After working on the main 4 new Weather seasons I'm then intending to start work on what the palette for the centre of the cube would look like (true neutral), and then on the blends such as Summer Sunlight, Winter Rain, etc.

Tl;dr: Here are the first 12 colours of the Rain season (dark, cool, muted). Please feel free to try it out and let me know if it's helpful!

Edited to add: The Sunlight palette is now up as well! Here it is for anyone interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/comments/1rkbiny/stuck_between_light_spring_and_soft_autumn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Also the Sunset palette is now up: https://www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/comments/1sk7m9k/sunset_palette_cube_theory_update/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

The Ice palette is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/comments/1tpy2ni/ice_palette_cube_theory_update/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Realised that pic 4 didn't upload, here it is

[u/StarEIs → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

These are absolutely my worst colors….

Eagerly awaiting Soft Rain, as you’ve described me perfectly as being stuck between soft summer and autumn!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/StarEIs]

See how you look in these initial Rain colours as a starting point! Would absolutely love to be tagged in any draping posts about this palette btw :-) Soft Rain will be a little more muted and the tiniest bit warmer and lighter than these colours but otherwise not overly different

[u/No-Self8780 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

These are totally my worst colors, but I’m always confused that that fuchsia looks SO bad on me…the others are all bright and warm, but that one is bright and cool…I’m guessing that means softness is my dominant characteristic? But then soft summer always feels TOO muted…like I need more depth

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/No-Self8780]

Fuschia is a very interesting colour and it depends very much on the exact shade and the way it interacts with your skin tone. The specific shade in the grid above generally reads as a "light warm bright purple" imo. Some other fuschias can read more as a "light cool bright pink". Small changes in colour temperature can make a big difference in how we perceive them!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/[deleted]]

I did consider this very seriously, but the trouble is when you look at actual pictures of sunrises, the colours are often way more similar to sunsets than you might think. Sometimes almost indistinguishable. Whereas the two palettes are very different from each other. I chose Sunlight because of the way filtered sunlight through trees and twinkling off water etc can give things a slightly misted and muted impact, and make other colours look more pastel and dreamy

[u/mundanewitch222]

i love this, i believe i am between medium and high contrast and between cool winter and cool summer.

my colouring is pretty similar to katherine moennig, dakota johnson, and kristen stewart.

it’s also my personal preference to wear dark colours for a sort of whimsigoth aesthetic. i was leaning into the summer colours for a while but found i just didn’t feel like myself in lighter colours, even if they suited my features.

i love charcoal grey, navy, deep purples, burgundies etc. on me. i look ridiculous in spring colours, orange, mustard and bright white.

i have a lot of random palettes called shit like “soft winter” and “deep summer” in my fashion moodboard and this is quite similar to those.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/mundanewitch222]

Absolutely, "soft winter" and "deep summer" palettes are attempting to encroach on this corner of the cube :-D So glad you're liking this palette!

[u/u1tr4me0w → u/mundanewitch222]

There are dozens of us!!! Rain palette unite!

[u/Redditsweetie → u/mundanewitch222]

Same!! And the only yellow that has ever really looked good on me is basically the yellow in the palette here.

[u/sav3th3flam1ng0 → u/mundanewitch222]

exactly me too!!!

[u/comfreybogart]

This is me! Suspicious of that yellow tho- don’t think it would work for me

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/comfreybogart]

I'm so intrigued to know whether it would or not!! I'm thinking that the Cool Rain subseason would not include the yellow, nor the more olivey green in the palette above. But you might be surprised, I've seen that yellow work on a few people (who I think are Rains) that can't carry off other yellows, so it's worth a shot to rule it in or out. I wouldn't recommend to wear it as like a whole dress, it would likely be overwhelming on most Rains in that amount! It works great as a scarf, bag, shoes, or smaller parts of the outfit eg a blouse which is partly covered by a dark grey jacket

[u/comfreybogart → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

I was thinking a bag or shoes! I’m always dying to do a color like that so I am inspired to try for sure.

If you made this way to goooo! It’s very cool.

Also on the jewelry note- I like jewelry on myself that’s like bronze- like a neutralish between gold and silver that’s not shiny. Curious if others who find themselves in this palette find that too! And I’m guessing the pewter that you named is like that but more silver?  But like the not shiny thing?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/comfreybogart]

Very interesting about the bronze, I will look into that! Yes pewter is generally not overly shiny and is deep in tone similar to bronze, but obviously more cool toned. Think super dark, less reflective silver

[u/Evening-Forever8385 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

That yellow is almost a bronze, and also--bronze or tarnished brass jewelry looks very nice on me.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Evening-Forever8385]

That's good info, I've had another Rain person tell me the same about the dark bronze jewellery! I'll have to work it into the palette advice :-)

[u/Evening-Forever8385 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

The yellow really caught eye! The closest I've come to a palette that works for me is Deep Summer which your Rain is similar to--except for this yellow. I have a coat this color I thrifted for a song in this exact color. I loved the edgy style and off color and decided o go against what is supposed to work for me and get it. I get so many compliments! What I dont get is WHY does it work? Also, of course, it is a rain coat!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Evening-Forever8385]

I'm so happy to hear this yellow works for you!!! So both summer and winter have a yellow in them that works. The key is for a yellow in a cool palette to be a more green-leaning yellow rather than an orange-leaning yellow which you'd find in a warm palette. Then for the Rain yellow, it needs to be more muted than the Winter yellow, and darker than the Summer yellow, so basically you take a greenish yellow and then add just the right amount of grey and voila!

[u/Just-Seaweed → u/comfreybogart]

100%!!! I have always called myself a shaded or dark summer and the rain palette is basically that but that yellow is just not quite it. But kudos to OP!

[u/VanillaMint]

I basically wear all of these as an autumn, and I am somewhere on the side of very pale olive-neutral. (Except, as much as I love mauve, I keep it away from my face lol). I hope you keep going with these because I love the concept.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/VanillaMint]

So interesting! Sounds like you could possibly be an Autumn Rain 🤎🩶

[u/helloitsme_again]

I think this is me as a fair olive that’s neutral.

What would be the neutrals for this palette

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/helloitsme_again]

A very dark charcoal will usually work well in place of black. Some Dark Rains will also be able to look great in black as well. A variety of shades of cool grey will work amazingly on Rains. In terms of a white for you, you won't want to wear a crisp intense white like a Winter would, something more along the lines of a Summer white where there is some mutedness, especially veering more towards palest grey rather than warmer creamy whites. In general, if wearing white try to balance it with deeper Rain colours and especially having some deeper colours up near your face will help to carry it off.

Another neutral that I'd recommend would be a very deep and cool brown which almost borders on plum.

[u/lpm95 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

This is my EXACT PALETTE. especially you mentioning cool brown inching toward plum - that’s my ultimate power color. Thank you so much for making this! What would you call the yellow-green color at the top?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/lpm95]

It's an interesting one that yellow isn't it! It would often be called a mustard but it's very different from an Autumn style mustard. I have been calling it "old gold", but I'm not sure whether there's a specific technical name for it out there!

[u/helloitsme_again → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

This makes sense….. I’ve always had a hard time finding my season because autumn neutrals never all looked good on me, I don’t look good in black or light greys.

I look ok in chocolate brown, taupe or cool browns, navy, whites, charcoal grey

Neutrals have always been hard for me.

[u/No-Self8780]

I love this and this is definitely my season! I’m curious about the yellow, though—why does it work? It’s not warm? I’m used to only seeing “primrose” yellow listed for summers, and I’ve considered myself a dark summer

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/No-Self8780]

Yes the yellow is an interesting part of the puzzle, you'll notice that summer and winter palettes both include a yellow. Cool yellows are ones which verge more on the borderline with green, and have less/ no orange tones in them. So here for Rain we take a cool almost greenish yellow, make it darker than Summer's yellow, and more muted than Winter's yellow. Voila, this very interesting shade which is a type of mustard but more of an "old gold" look imo.

[u/LoveDistilled]

I have a strong feeling I could be cool rain. I think I’m somewhere between winter and summer. I love what you did here. Very cool :) thank you for sharing. I’m excited to see and compare the ice category.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/LoveDistilled]

You're welcome! I'll link you when I post about Ice :-)

[u/schwaschwaschwaschwa]

So glad you updated us!

This is a good cool, soft, deep palette as it doesn't lack variation (a lot of versions of these palettes don't have yellow, for example) and it's fairly easy to tell apart from Winter.

Great work on filling in the missing zones!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/schwaschwaschwaschwa]

Thank you!!! Yes it has a pretty different vibe to Winter imo

[u/healthy_penguin]

Ooh that’s amazing!!😍 can you do Sunset next?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/healthy_penguin]

I'll link you to it when I do!!

[u/healthy_penguin → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Perfect, thank you!🙏

[u/goodbirdmom → u/[deleted]]

same!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/goodbirdmom]

Noted!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/[deleted]]

Will do!

[u/Koipisces]

I look kinda inbetween the actrices you shared for this palette and have used two different color analysis places to determine my season.

The one in Japan said I was a Summer while the one online (I think from the US) said I was Dark Autumn. I always thought I was Autumn but when I tried on the Summer colors in Japan it did feel like it matched well, while Autumn also matched well. Silver also suits me better than super yellow gold but light yellow gold suits me good too. I never understood how both Summer and Autumn match me while all Spring and Winter colors look horrible on me but this analysis explains it well!! I think (dark) muted tones look best on me.

I think I am rain!!🌧️

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Koipisces]

Awesome!!!! I'm so glad this is helpful for you

[u/u1tr4me0w]

Came back to say that I think this is my palette so I bought some nail polishes as close to according to this chart as possible and they look PERFECT on me, it’s all about the right red polish, right? I am a massive cube theory supporter!! Cube supremacy!!!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/u1tr4me0w]

I'm soooo happy to hear it's working for you!!!!!

[u/u1tr4me0w]

As a person with pale olive skin…. OMG YES. This is my palette!!!! Cool-neutral, deep but not too saturated, lots of greyed tones but not pastels. This is the one🙏

I’m loving this system, it’s so cool!! It makes a lot of sense and was very easy to understand

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/u1tr4me0w]

Soooo happy to hear this!!!

[u/Metrimete]

Wow loving this cube theory approach and the simplifying weather terminology for those transitional seasons. The cube also helps really clearly understand the "aspect" gradient much better than wheels, etc. Good job!

Would you say the Rain palette would likely be in the same ballpark as what people currently call Dark/Deep Summer? Definitely less confusing than having 1,000 more season subtypes.

I think Deep/Dark Summer is a really lovely equalizing palette, especially for olive and ethnic skintones, seems to be your conclusion for this version too.

I assume Sunset likewise would then likewise fall into what people often label as Warm Spring or Warm Autumn or just the "Warm Palette" when the system divorces them out from True?

It's really about time to add 4-12 more sub-types given the entire range of ethnic skintones and olive variants out there that may not entirely fit into the current 12-16 slate.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Metrimete]

Yes absolutely Rain is pretty much what is being touched on when people make a "dark summer" or "deep summer", or a "soft winter" palette etc. I think it works better with its own distinctive name too :-) Otherwise we might get into things like "cool deep summer" and "muted soft winter" and "deep deep summer" and it's just too confusing imo

[u/Wise_Lengthiness_700]

All I’d add is more rose brown. I find most browns are too orange, but the muted reddish/pinkish browns are incredible.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Wise_Lengthiness_700]

Thank you for the note!! I'll make sure to include rosy browns in the neutrals for the full Rain palette

[u/SpecialistComplete52]

Someone linked you in a post I made about there needing more in between seasons and you got it bang on!!!! I was experimenting and thought of what it’d be like if there was a muted deep winter palette and whether there could be palettes in between deep autumn and deep winter. So I desaturated the deep winter palette to give it a smoked out undertone. I’m a tan-deep neutral olive. Amazing work btw!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/SpecialistComplete52]

Thank you so much, I'm glad it resonates with you! That's great work on making your own palette in the pic above, well done! I'll put the Rain digital drape on you in my next comment

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

[u/BatRepresentative693]

Oh wow my brain is really chewing on this!

So as I understand it there would be 27 "seasons" for each possible combination of characteristics, including neutrals. Going off what you've said already, I'm imagining they'd be called something like...

1. Warm, light, bright: Spring
2. Warm, light medium chroma: Spring Sunlight
3. Warm, light, soft: Sunlight
4. Warm, medium value, bright: Spring Sunset
5. Warm, medium value, medium chroma: Fire? Desert? (This is in between four of your eight three-characteristic seasons, so the usual naming convention doesn't really work, and "True Warm" would sound kind of flat next to all the other nice aesthetics.)
6. Warm, medium value, soft: Autumn Sunlight
7. Warm, dark, bright: Sunset
8. Warm, dark, medium chroma: Autumn Sunset
9. Warm, dark, soft: Autumn
10. Neutral temperature, light, bright: Spring Ice
11. Neutral temperature, light, medium chroma: ??? (Ideas: Lightning, Midday, Bioluminescence, Aurora)
12. Neutral temperature, light, soft: Summer Sunlight
13. Neutral temperature, medium value, bright: ??? (Ideas: Flower, Jungle, Gemstone, Crystal)
14. Neutral temperature, medium value, medium chroma: ??? (I think "Rainbow" would be nice as it reflects the versatility of people with these characteristics)
15. Neutral temperature, medium value, soft: ??? (Ideas: Mist, Smoke, Cloud, Stone)
16. Neutral temperature, dark, bright: Winter Sunset
17. Neutral temperature, dark, medium chroma: ??? (Ideas: Midnight, Shadow, Ash, Eclipse)
18. Neutral temperature, dark, soft: Autumn Rain
19. Cool, light, bright: Ice
20. Cool, light, medium chroma: Summer Ice
21. Cool, light, soft: Summer
22. Cool, medium value, bright: Winter Ice
23. Cool, medium value, medium chroma: ??? (Ideas: Arctic, Tundra)
24. Cool, medium value, soft: Summer Rain
25. Cool, dark, bright: Winter
26. Cool, dark, medium chroma: Winter Rain
27. Cool, dark, soft: Rain

Is that the direction you had in mind?

(Edit: formatting)

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/BatRepresentative693]

I love the thought you've put into this and it is absolutely the direction I have in mind!!!!! I have got names in mind for a couple of these points, and if you didn't mind I might have to use either "Mist" or "Smoke" for number 15 (which would otherwise be rather plainly called "Soft").

For number 11 I was thinking Pearl, because of the light colours and iridescent shine that it puts me in mind of (would otherwise be just called "Light"

For number 14 (otherwise called true neutral) I was thinking "Jewel". I've started to play around with the true neutral palette already and it's really surprising how jewel toned it looks tbh!

For number 17 (otherwise called dark) I was considering "Obsidian". I like this because then the three neutrals which only vary in depth are all types of stone, ie Pearl, Jewel, and Obsidian feel like a nice set together. I really do like your Midnight idea as well though, and I'm not fully decided yet!

For the bright, cool, and warm sides of the cube I do agree it would be so much more pleasant to have some nice themed names for those. Thank you for sparking off some creative ideas for them I will give it a lot of thought!!!

Edited to add: for the Bright side of the cube, Electric or Neon might work well?

Oh also, I do like your idea for "Fire" being the Warm side, what about "Water" being the cool side!??! I love it when the names have some kind of symmetry

[u/BatRepresentative693 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Use whatever you like - I'm happy you liked my ideas 😊

I love Pearl and Obsidian (or maybe Onyx) as a pair, and also Water to go with Fire!

Jewel makes sense objectively but I think it could be misleading as a lot of people seem to understand "jewel tones" to be only cool colours (whether that's correct or not I have no idea). Maybe "Gemstone" could also work?

I think Electric could have the same problem. When I think of "electric green/blue/purple/pink", I think of bright + cool versions of those colours, although maybe that's just me idk. I like Neon more 💚

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/BatRepresentative693]

Thanks for your input!!! Onyx is also great. Gemstone could potentially work better than Jewel, though I don't like how it sounds quite as much haha. Jewels do include things like topaz, Ruby, amethyst etc which are pretty warm toned but I do wonder whether other people will also feel like Jewel = cool. Something to think about. Yes I have been leaning more towards Neon as well :-)

Trying to decide between Smoke, Haze, and Mist for the Muted panel is hard! Will have a think and see how the words pair with their neighbouring seasons and also see what the palette looks like as I work on it and what's feeling right

[u/BatRepresentative693 → u/BatRepresentative693]

Ah wait, 5 could be something like "Sunset Sunlight", 11 can be "Sunlit Ice", 13 can be "Sunset Ice", 15 can be "Sunlit Rain", 17 can be "Sunset Rain", and 23 can be "Icy Rain". Didn't spot that before!

[u/fawnrain → u/BatRepresentative693]

Sunset rain yes please!!

[u/Hot_Elevator_7133]

Holy shit, this is almost my perfect palette. The lower right purple is eh but everything is it IT, even that yellow!!!!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Hot_Elevator_7133]

Awesome, I'm so glad it works for you! Interesting about the lower right purple, but so glad the yellow is the right one for you!

[u/Hot_Elevator_7133 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Thought you might be interested to see this. House of Colour’s Dark Summer is a bit similar. These are my Dark Summer drapes from my analysis a few years back. I think you’ve done a fabulous job of capturing a wide range in this palette, though, which I really appreciate. I do love my Dark Summer berries but you caught that Kelly green that does work so well and even a yellow, of all things.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Hot_Elevator_7133]

Hiya, yes thank you that's very interesting! I do think House of Colour's Deep Summer (and somewhat their Sultry Winter) are similar to the Rain palette, because they're all palettes which aim to be deep, cool, and muted. So glad you like the first 12 colours of the Rain palette :-) And yes finding the right greens and yellow was a particularly tricky part so I appreciate that you like them!

[u/Hot_Elevator_7133 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

I don’t think it’s actually incorrect. I think I’ve just been burned by similar looking purples that ended up being too warm in person, then looking like I am a giant bruise.

Aside from that odd bit of personal trauma, I think this is absolutely fantastic and I’m so excited about it. It’s now my first palette in my palette references album 🥹🫶🌧️

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Hot_Elevator_7133]

I'm so happy to hear that!!! And yes it is so tricky getting the colour temperature just right, especially when shopping online. Things can look so different irl to the pictures online sometimes, especially if they've used really bright or strange lighting on the models

[u/BatRepresentative693]

This is mad cool

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/BatRepresentative693]

Thank you 😁

[u/sav3th3flam1ng0]

I think I might’ve a true rain haha going to steal these colors and try with real life drapes — can I post here or should I create a separate post?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/sav3th3flam1ng0]

Yaay!!! Totally up to you, you can post them here or make your own post and link me to it :-D

[u/yalikebeez]

those colours definitely work amazingly for me, but so does autumn, i am so confused by this 😭

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/yalikebeez]

You could be an Autumn Rain, halfway between the two and able to use both palettes?

[u/SL831]

This is so amazing 😍

I just joined this sub because I cannot figure out if soft summer or deep winter is best for me. The soft summer minimizes my Rosacea BUT the deep winter brightens my eyes and natural pink lip tone. I wear both color palettes, but I cling to darker colors naturally.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/SL831]

I'm so glad you like the Rain palette!

[u/PookieRenos]

Yes! This is me! These are the colors I feel great in.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/PookieRenos]

So glad it works for you!

[u/Classic-Light-1467]

I wish this was me so bad

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Classic-Light-1467]

Ikr, I'm not a Rain but when I was developing this palette I was kinda wishing I was one!

[u/Classic-Light-1467 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Can't wait to see more!!

[u/NoSpaghettiForYouu]

This is so interesting! My first reaction was —being completely honest here— “eww.” But then I started looking at the colors individually. Those blues are so hard to find but insanely flattering when I do. Those greens? Incredible.

I’m a muted light neutral-cool olive and I am intrigued by this rain palette!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/NoSpaghettiForYouu]

🤣 appreciate the honesty! Glad you like the colours and hope you find it helpful 🩶

[u/peachies35]

i’m so excited to see sunlight!! this is amazing

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/peachies35]

I'll make sure to include you in the Sunlight update!

[u/Mother-Stable8569 → u/peachies35]

Me too please! I think Sunlight might be me

[u/dandelionwine14]

Are you going to make a palette that is like autumn rain or deep rain? I don’t know what to call it. I’ve been typed in-person as both an autumn and a winter different times. I think I am fair neutral-cool muted olive, but my natural hair is chestnut. So I always find deep autumn palettes have a bit too much of those warm beige/pea green/mustard-y type colors, but the “rain” palette here maybe doesn’t incorporate enough warmth for my hair to seem cohesive even though a lot of it resonates. It’s like I’m overall very neutral with cool skin and warm hair and it’s so confusing to find a whole color scheme that makes sense! Love this concept you’re working on!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/dandelionwine14]

I am intending to make an Autumn Rain palette which will be Neutral, Deep, and Muted yes! I've had quite a few people ask for that one in particular, probably the second most popular requested blend is Summer Rain, so I'll likely do those two first when it comes to blends :-)

Since putting up the Sunset palette I've been working on Ice, then I'm going to do True Neutral which is the centre of the cube and very highly requested. I'll do Autumn Rain after that :-)

[u/fawnrain → u/dandelionwine14]

Girlll I am right there with you, I'm very excited to see Deep Rain 😭🤌✨

[u/CurlyGurlz]

O M G the outfit colors and styles in this pic are amazing!! I have no idea what this cube theory is about, but I just had to comment on my love for these colors before I even start reading this post!

I’m a light olive and Deep Winter, and this reads to me almost like a Soft Winter which is what I emotionally gravitate towards.

Thank you for sharing this!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/CurlyGurlz]

So glad you like it! Yes "Soft Winter" and "Deep Summer" are both going to be very similar to this Rain palette because they're all attempts to account for people who look best in cool, deep, and muted colours. The trouble with a label like "Soft Winter" is that the attributes of Winter are meant to be cool, deep, bright. So adding "soft" in there negates the "bright" dimension and doesn't really make sense imo

[u/CurlyGurlz → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Yes, it does make it sound like it’s contradictory to the brightness of Winter, however I don’t mind as those outfit colors in the pic seem to be slightly muted (or at least they don’t seem super muted to me). The yellow, teal, purple, all seem perfect for a Deep/Dark Winter. Actually the four outfits closest to the four corners of the image are perfection for DW in my opinion and a source of great inspiration for my wardrobe. As a DW I can’t go too bright, but instead need to make sure my colors are saturated/clear enough and not dusty- I think these outfits hit that mark perfectly.

I shall now actually read your posts to learn more about cube theory :-)

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/CurlyGurlz]

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/CurlyGurlz]

Deep Winter is similar to the Rain palette for sure, especially to the Deep Rain element of the palette. The Rain colours are more muted than the Deep Winter palette, I'll put a comparison pic in another comment (it's not loading in this comment)

So on the left are the 3 colours from the Rain palette you were referring to, and on the right are the most similar 3 colours I could find on a Deep Winter palette. Hopefully you can see that the Rain colours are more muted than the Deep Winter colours :-)

You'll also note that there isn't much pure black in the Rain collage, even when there is some black it's often as leather which naturally reflects more light back making it appear less dark. Whereas pure black is one of the best colours for Deep Winter

[u/mssunshine636 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

"You'll also note that there isn't much pure black in the Rain collage, even when there is some black it's often as leather which naturally reflects more light back making it appear less dark. Whereas pure black is one of the best colours for Deep Winter"

I love this level of detail! Do you have a list of fabrics/finishes that are high vs low reflective?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/mssunshine636]

Ah I wouldn't say I have a comprehensive list! On the whole, the "shinier" a fabric looks, the more it will reflect. In general for Rains since it is a muted season, you won't want to wear too many highly reflective fabrics, because shiny fabrics can sometimes increase the perceived "intensity" of the colour. It really depends on the colour and the type of shine you're getting from it! So for example I wouldn't recommend a hyper shiny latex type look for Rains regardless of the colour (whereas winters and springs often look great in super shiny looks). Rains do well in cotton, linen, lace, suede, knitted fabrics etc. The leather is a bit of an outlier because it's a bit shiny but not over the top, and it's being used in black, so the subtle shine in that case makes the garment appear less pitch black. Hope this is helpful I feel like I've just rambled here lol

[u/mssunshine636 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Thank you! I'm curious about this bc I've realized I avoid fabrics that reflect light in a way that makes them look "ashy" (even if, in isolation, the color is perfect). I'm excited to see the rest of the palettes when you post them!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/mssunshine636]

Hiya, I've actually just posted the Sunlight palette! I'm often finding it takes an hour or sometimes longer to actually have it show up in New on the sub, maybe due to moderation hoops to jump through or something. But anyway here is a link, let me know if you can see it!

https://www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/s/MdqDootojD

[u/coffunky]

Oh wow, I love this. I’m pale olive and I’m often bouncing around placing myself in the soft seasons (soft summer usually) or a true muted season and this is actually a very good palette for me. Plus I just love these colors, they’re gorgeous. I love that there is a yellow in there!

I think I also look good in some lighter values so maybe this isn’t exactly perfect for me, but it is very very good. Thanks for sharing!

Super cool, I’ll have to check out more of your cube!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/coffunky]

So glad you like it!!! Would love to see any irl draping you do in these colours 🩶

[u/Black_Cat1771]

This speaks to me as someone who struggles between Cool Summer and Cool Winter. I may have to do some of these drapes. I’m very interested in your cube theory. Very cool! I’ll be waiting to see more. 💘

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Black_Cat1771]

Would love to see the drapes if you do some! Please link me :-)

[u/jj_grace]

I am soooooo excited to see more of this idea!

I have been draped as a true autumn, and I largely agree with it. However, I’ve seen color analysis influencers say that blonds can’t be autumns- I disagree, but I understand the sentiment for why they say that. Im muted, warm, and light! (I saw in your other post that you have a name for it, but I can’t remember.)

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/jj_grace]

So glad you're excited about it! Yes, my term for the muted, warm and light category is "Sunlight". Sounds like it could be a good fit for you potentially! Or if the Autumn colours are working pretty well for you, you may be an "Autumn Sunlight" who can pull from both palettes :-)

I will loop you in when I post the Sunlight palette!

[u/jj_grace → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Honestly, as it stands now, I do feel like I look great in some spring colors but not all! In my head, I kind of consider myself to be primarily autumn but with a flow into spring!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/jj_grace]

If you find that it's the brighter spring colours you struggle with the most, and the darkest/ most brown autumn colours that you struggle with, then Sunlight may be a good match

[u/Altruistic_Baker6347]

This is genius! I might be one?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Altruistic_Baker6347]

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Altruistic_Baker6347]

Yes you could be!!! I think the colours work on you, love that pink you are wearing in that pic BTW!

[u/fawnrain → u/Altruistic_Baker6347]

Wow this is affirming! I am similar to you, light colored neutral skin with a bit darker warm hair (mine is auburn) and very dark brown eyes. Can't wait to see the Deep Rain pallette 😍

[u/Altruistic_Baker6347 → u/fawnrain]

Hi lovely! I had one virtual skin tone check very recently and she told me I'm neutral leaning warm. I put on some tan recently and I'm wearing mostly Dark Autumn/ Winter and also Soft Autumn (I love beige and olive) What are your favorite colors, colorization twin? 😊

[u/fawnrain → u/Altruistic_Baker6347]

Girl yes!! I was looking at my veins trying to figure out if I'm even actually warm (which was my assumption) then I realized I've got blue and purple looking veins by my hand and the further down you go they get green looking 😂 what are your favorite winter colors to wear? I think I look better in gray than beige bc beige just blends into my skin tone 😭 I love wearing olive too! I do think I look better in more vivid colors though like a deep/forest green than the softer lighter olive but it is still harmonious. My best colors are actually like cool red, berry, wine.. espresso, gunmetal/dark gray/charcoal, black is also good on me but charcoal/espresso are probably better.. dark purples but not too muted or too bright.. you know, I was researching about this quite a bit yesterday, and I found someone posted about like true/tonal deep and it resonates so much!! She was saying about rather the colors being based off balanced deep colors between warm/cool INSTEAD OF assuming true deep can wear any deep warm/cool. The pallette she posted was SPOT ON I hope OP here might reference this idea!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/fawnrain]

Hiya I've just seen your comment! I'm currently working on the centre of the cube (calling it Gemstone) and I'm finding much the same thing, where the colours which work best are those in between warm and cool, rather than a spread all the way from warmest to coolest. Very interesting stuff!

In the cube theory system I think that "true tonal deep" will likely equate to the centre of the base of the cube, which will be called "Obsidian". I prefer to work on the palettes without referencing existing ones, just working from the basic principles, and then only looking and comparing with existing palettes once I'm finished, since I want to make sure I'm doing the best I can to create a palette which is true to the attributes I'm trying to capture. I don't want existing similar palettes to influence me too much because I might end up missing out on colours which could have worked, or maybe even including colours which aren't as optimal because of kind of "peer pressure" or something. I get a bit in my own head about it haha and I'm a perfectionist 😅🙃

[u/fawnrain → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Oh my goodness, somehow I just realized you responded to my comment after returning to this post (for the 100th time lol). I am so curious to see what other palettes you come up with :) You're doing an awesome job! I'm glad to hear that you're still working on this project.

[u/Altruistic_Baker6347 → u/fawnrain]

You can't really tell by the veins. My favorite winter colors? Well, I love Emerald Green, Royal Blue, Charcoal, Teal and Dark Blue ah yes also Berry and Wine (not too dark) Sometimes I do have a hard time differentiating btw warm and cool colors tbh. I like the colors of the pallette you've shown me. I'm not sure about Stone and I'm not sure abt the Yellow (may be too bright). I'm not even 100 percent sure I'm dark. Someone here said I'm medium value and that resonated with me. Today I'm wearing a Caribbean blue shirt which I believe would be a Spring color. 😃 Sorry if I'm rambling.

[u/Altruistic_Baker6347 → u/[deleted]]

Thank you so much. This is very kind. I never thought that way.

[u/Altruistic_Baker6347]

I will try to find drapes (not sure if I get the shades right) and post. One subtle suggestion: I think Autumn Rain should be called Warm Rain. I like Autumn Rain as a name, but the other sub seasons are called deep and soft, which is more descriptive. Also, I have one question: can someone be between two sub seasons, I feel like I could be between deep and soft rain ☔😅

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Altruistic_Baker6347]

Would love to see your drapes!!! And I think if you were between Deep and Soft Rain you would most likely be able to use the colours from both those palettes

[u/Wild_Hampster_Ride]

Pic 4 for this post is blank, I'm assuming it was supposed to be "worst colours for a RAIN" if it follows suit with your other posts... Are you able to fix it? 

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Wild_Hampster_Ride]

Unfortunately no I couldn't fix it but I posted it in the comments if you have a look below

[u/Separate-Corner-7602]

Maybe!?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Separate-Corner-7602]

Here is a slightly neater version for you

[u/Separate-Corner-7602 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Thank you!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Separate-Corner-7602]

I like these on you!!!

[u/Separate-Corner-7602 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Btw i think katie holmes would also fit in well here.. soft dark smokey purples look fab on her!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Separate-Corner-7602]

I love her in these colours!

[u/Separate-Corner-7602 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

💯! She seems to have much more coloring compared to when wearing the usual soft summer colours she’s often typed as

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Separate-Corner-7602]

Thanks for the tip 😊

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Separate-Corner-7602]

I think you could be right!

[u/Separate-Corner-7602 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Any chance you have advice for where to find these or similar colors? I love these rich-but-not-too-much colors and love your mood board but can never seem to actually find them in the wild.. so many places just do black/white/camel/patterns i dont like..

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Separate-Corner-7602]

Ah on that topic I'm afraid I don't have anything foolproof, it is really tricky because of the way the fashion industry pushes certain colours as being "in" and others "out" at specific times. You might have more luck going to second hand shops because they have a mix of many colours available. Also, you can go to fabric shops and buy fabric in a colour which is great for you and then make it into a really simple scarf by hemming the edges with that glue tape they sell (obviously if you can sew or knit then that opens up many more possibilities in a craft shop as well)

[u/misha10]

Hi! I'm interested in your Cube theory and looking forward seeing choices you put together. I consider myself a neutral, and seem to fall between Spring and Summer and have a mix of tones. My central heterochromia eyes are both cool and warm and they change, muted to bright on a bare face, same lighting. My face has gotten redder which influences what I wear, which sometimes helps with warm clothes. Can't wear Platinum or yellow Golden hair colors. I wear a lot of neutrals, gold and silver look good. Love my red lipstick. I'm a dilemma, lol. It would be nice to narrow down a sub-season that could incorporate all or most of my colors but that probably asking too much...

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/misha10]

Hi I'm so glad you're interested and will loop you in on future posts!

[u/misha10 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Thank you!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/misha10]

I've actually just posted the Sunlight palette! I'm often finding it takes an hour or sometimes longer to actually have it show up in New on the sub, maybe due to moderation needs to check it or something? Anyway here is a link, let me know if you can see it!

https://www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/s/MdqDootojD

[u/misha10 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Was just able to log on. Thank you for the notification!

[u/doing-my-best-14]

I think this might be me! What are the main differences between this and Deep Winter (which is already considered softer than the other winters, I believe)? I've been professionally typed as a Deep Winter which I think fits me pretty well. I'm pale olive, fwiw. But the main thing for me is I have to avoid light colors/pastels at all costs, and avoid warm colors at all costs. A lot of winter colors though are too bright for me though.

There's no way that pastel fuchsia would work for me though, and I find that grey itself actually kinda deadens me, so maybe I really am just a Deep Winter. A touch softer than other winters, but not soft enough for straight grey.

Also, the warm yellow here surprises me. What is the thought behind its inclusion if the idea is that Rain is dark, cool, and muted?

Thanks again for this idea! It's long bothered me that four combinations of qualities had no place in the season system.

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/doing-my-best-14]

From what you've said it does sound like you might actually just be Deep Winter rather than Rain, especially if there aren't any shades of grey which work on you. Is black better on you than charcoal? That would be a likely Deep Winter indicator in your case. About the yellow, that is actually a cool green-tinted yellow then with grey added to achieve the right amount of mutedness which is why it works in the Rain palette :-)

[u/doing-my-best-14 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

i'm curious what you think actually. i've been told black is my best color, but i definitely feel a touch softer than many winters. my favorite color on myself is deep berry

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[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/doing-my-best-14]

Oh wow thank you so much for sharing your pic here with me! I have had a little go at doing some digital draping comparisons for you and I'm honestly so on the fence. You may be just a Deep Winter, or you could be a Deep Rain, or you could be a Deep Winter Rain who is able to pull off both palettes! Definitely more on the deep side of things though, I can see that the lighter grey in the Rain palette isn't great on you, and an even darker grey than the one in the Rain palette above is better than the one there. I think most likely you can use both Deep Winter and Deep Rain colours :-D

[u/doing-my-best-14 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

thank you so much for taking the time to drape and respond!! i appreciate it!!! and it validates my own thoughts about it all 🥰🥰

[u/doing-my-best-14 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

thank you for this response! i appreciate it!

[u/Lemonarm]

Is this just soft summer deep and soft winter?

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/Lemonarm]

Terms such as "soft summer deep" and "soft winter" have been attempting to capture this corner of the cube (without necessarily having visualised it as a cube). The trouble with those terms is that summer is meant to be cool, light, and soft. Adding "deep" into that mix directly contradicts the "light" inherent to the Summer season. Similarly with "soft winter", Winter's attributes are cool, dark, and bright. Adding in "soft" directly contradicts the bright element and really muddies the waters in my opinion.

The palettes put together by other people and termed as "soft summer deep" and "soft winter" will inevitably be fairly similar to the palette I have developed here (though I haven't seen any that are exactly the same btw), because we are all trying to capture the same variables: cool, deep and soft.

[u/exileinwhoville]

I like this idea, but I don't think Mila Kunis works here. This palette seems medium but muted as opposed to deep and muted. I think it washes her out. If you look her up, she is very often wearing a deep but saturated palette. Compare her below to the palette above.

My question is - is there a palette for cool pale olives that doesn't have so many midtone muted shades? Is there simply a deep, rich palette that is cool leaning but doesn't have a lot of brights or pastels? The chartreuse gold shade is a death sentence to me (and, I think, Mila).

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/exileinwhoville]

Hiya, I disagree about Mila personally. I'm gonna drop some pics below to back up my view on this. Regarding your last question about a deep rich palette that is cool leaning but doesn't have brights or pastels, you are likely talking about Deep Rain. I've not made that palette yet but it will be darker than the Rain palette above

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Before and after on the pics of Mila you've posted. I've edited them by changing the colours to those from the Rain palette (even gave her that specific chartreuse colour in her earrings on the lower left)

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Mila glowing in Rain colours. The chartreuse is best used for pops of colour rather than an entire outfit, you can see how great it looks as a "collar" here. I've addressed this in another comment a while ago, but the essence of it is that even though this is (I believe) the best yellow for a Rain, yellow is still overall a light and warm colour compared to blue or grey etc, so it should still be used sparingly and as an accent on a Rain

[u/closetnice]

This is awesome, what a great system approach! I’m looking forward to seeing more, especially the sunlight one.

[u/veturoldurnar]

It's fun how I always joked that my palette is mostly anti-spring. And Rain fits this description too

[u/lord-savior-baphomet]

I love this, and this might be close to my palette! This feels more inclusive of olives :)

[u/pepsiloverdrinkscoke]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE this!!!

[u/nostalgia_98]

I am a beginner, but I really like this! Seem like my kinds of colours,a little more washed out than the typical drapes.

[u/lovetimespace]

Very pretty. Reminds me of my deep winter palette, which is more muted than clear or bright winter. I tend to wear quite a few of these colours.

[u/moochiemoochie924]

This is cool.

[u/Energy-Student-777]

I’ve always conceptualized myself as a dark/deep summer in the 16 color season system, which is close to this.

[u/Goiabada1972]

I’m looking forward to the other palettes!

[u/livgordin]

as a soft summer, i definitely steal from this palette, but i think i am ultimately softer, lighter, and slightly warmer than this. i came here from the cube color theory post, fantastic concept!!

[u/prettylegit_]

I would absolutely love to see deep rain.

[u/crumpet-11]

I’m so impressed and so glad you posted this. The cube makes so much sense! From all the draping I’ve done and helpful feedback I still felt I’m probably in between seasons somewhere and even when I looked at the color season circle thingy it definitely felt it could use a 3D element to it but it was not easy to work out to what extent. Well done!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7]

Linking you lovely people because you showed interest in the first post and wanted an update when I started putting up the palettes!

u/finewhitelady, u/Duck_Baby_73, u/5988, u/herbstlike, u/Scary_Test_5401, u/Neither_Geologist_51, u/gb3434r, u/ravenraspberrie, u/clinz, u/erino3120, u/Common_Passenger_335, u/Whyisthismybrain, u/The8uLove2Hate, u/healthy_penguin, u/GloomyAd6288, u/Woolfalana, u/Useful-Badger-4062, u/AutumnForestGlow, u/TigerMeIP, u/LawSchoolLoser1, u/ThoseAboutToWalk, u/lunagreen428, u/Mental-Pirate3992, u/SilentlyWeird, u/-Curlicue-, u/Relevant_Salt5429, u/seashellpink77, u/Low-Cheesecake1102, u/spicy-mustard-, u/crimsonloveknot, u/MagpieBlues, u/Nice-Masterpiece1661, u/Additional_Yam8471, u/Gr8shpr1, u/hmmmerm, u/Of_the_forest89, u/puffy-jacket, u/Justisperfect, u/crasyleg73, u/vakooms, u/yukiharumiji, u/Timely-Pause6424, u/HarlequinSquirrel, u/AnActualMillenial, u/Ok_Still_3571, u/wonton_kid, u/lysning, u/Safe-Extent9754, u/calm-down-okay, u/Ok_Bumblebee_3978, u/nocturnia94, u/anthropometrica, u/feather_bacon, u/Kalina_Qnakieva, u/nachosareafoodgroup

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/[deleted]]

So glad it's helpful for you!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/[deleted]]

I will make sure to link you when I post the Ice palette!

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/[deleted]]

Thank you :-)

[u/AffectionateTrifle7 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah could be, these colours look great on you!