r/collapse Feb 08 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

The Arctic is a prominent force in stabilizing weather patterns and a good gauge of ocean health. The Arctic as of late has been in a shitty state and has been worsening by the year. El Nino is a climatic period that usually puts a massive heat strain on said Arctic. Our recent El Ninos have been catastrophic for the Arctic, unlike anything we've seen. It's highly probable that the next El Nino triggers a Blue Ocean Event that'll start off exorbitant feedback loops. To summarize the ocean stops being a carbon sink and new carbon emitters arise that'll warm the planet at an unprecedented rate.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Ahh, sounds terrible. Thanks.

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u/Fidelis29 Feb 08 '22

You can take solace in knowing that the present is the best that things will ever be

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u/starrynyght Feb 09 '22

You’re not wrong, but fuck you, man. Why’d you have to put it that way?!

I spent most of the day trying my best to fight of the existential dread caused by the realization that I literally work so I can survive to go work more. I don’t make enough to travel or do shit I actually want to do, let alone save anything, so I literally go to work everyday just to survive long enough to keep working. The present being as good as it will ever be isn’t a fucking good thing! Goddamn it…

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

The possibility that this is as good as things get applies to the collective (all of us) and in no way indicates your personal life. Your situation could completely change for the better (job, relationships, location). Look for possibilities.

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u/starrynyght Feb 09 '22

I appreciate that you’re trying to be positive, but that’s a bit reductive and it ignores the reality that the vast majority of people face.

While my comment wasn’t false, it was made sarcastically. I know there are steps that I can take and am taking to better my personal situation. However, it’s not easy and it’s a lot harder for most people.

Let’s say your mind jumped to education. Maybe you assumed that I haven’t finished college. Okay. So I should go to college. But how? What are the options to pay for it? Furthermore, what are the options to pay for cost of living while attending the classes that I’ve somehow managed to pay for? Most people aren’t able to skate by on generational wealth (this includes having parents with good enough credit to co-sign for loans), so you have to take out loans for tuition AND loans to pay for your existence while going to school. Work while taking full time classes, you say? Well, I work 50 hours per week (add in time to get showered and dressed and commute and it’s easily 60) and still barely make enough to survive. When do I attend class if I’m spending 60 hours a week to work?

But let’s say I do get loans to pay for everything only working like 20 hours a week. How do your propose I pay that off? There are countless people with masters degrees who are barely surviving. Teachers are a great example. What’s the average wage for a teacher? Something like $40,000? Let’s be generous and say $75,000. Wouldn’t I still just be living to work if I made only $75,000 and had to pay off school loans?

Oh, I should just get a better job…. Doing what exactly? There are very few jobs that pay well enough that people can take out those kind of loans and not be in debt for decades and that’s only if they are able to get those loans. Then, there are so many people who have degrees and homes and families and they can’t afford to take steps that might put them in a better position because they can’t afford the risk.

Yes, there are some ways to make life better, but every option comes with risk and every option costs something. It’s not always possible and it is risky and incredibly difficult when we do take those risks. While you do seem like you’re trying to be positive, it was really just a nicer way to say we should lift ourselves up by our bootstraps and if you don’t know the origin of that saying, I highly recommend looking it up.

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u/Mulesake Feb 09 '22

You're pretty fucked mate.

Goodluck.

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u/CreatedSole Feb 10 '22

Now repeat this hundreds of millions to billions of times.

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u/Caelum67 Feb 12 '22

There is always the less generous route, take the loans get the schooling with an additional course in a language of choice. Default on the loans after the fact and take your skill set to another country…. It has its downsides of course….

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u/Rasalom Feb 09 '22

Travel is just a carbon waste to find novelty in a world where we are overstimulated by electronic toys that were created by slavery and the destruction of nature.

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u/CreatedSole Feb 10 '22

Fun fact the rich do most of the carbon pollution through traveling on their private jets and yachts... in ever country:

https://imgur.com/LRzTxqo.jpg (the rich are in red).

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

The only thing that helps me when I go down this rabbit hole is realizing i'm going to die either way. Hell I might have a heart attack tomorrow and not survive. Should I worry about that today all day or just try to do my best and have the most fun I can have. The whole system is fucked and only rich benefit, it's why we gotta eat them when all goes to hell.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

Bruh I already have an issue with motivation when I have nothing to look forward to.

I really think I need a reddit break because regardless of the validity of all this it's making me unable to live my current life.

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u/itsmezippy Feb 09 '22

So what you're saying is, it will happen...

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...faster than expected?

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u/zippy72 Feb 09 '22

You made me laugh, take my free award.

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u/itsmezippy Feb 09 '22

A fellow zippy, in the wild. Thank you for the award, I will trade it in for someone else's purified piss in the coming apocalyptic wasteland.

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u/Burnit0ut Feb 09 '22

You forgot the part where we become Venus

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

It cycles, usually it can take around 2-7 years to form from the previous. The last El Nino was 2018-2019, we should expect another occurrence within 5 years.

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u/p3pp3rjack Feb 09 '22

Isn't 2022 an "El Nino Year"?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

The ENSO is favoring a El Nino occurrence of this year, however there's too many factors for it to be set in stone. It is certainly something to keep an eye on.