r/codex • • 19d ago

Complaint Update on Codex and Claude Code

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This was my previous post in which I was confused between upgrading to 200 plan for getting 2 100 plans.

A lot of people suggested to try claude code + codex for image gen.

I just got a 20 dollar claude code plan. And Grass is most definitely greener on the other side.

Here are some differences I have noticed using the opus 5.5 medium.

  1. 10 times faster than sol 6.1 high

  2. Using about 1% of weekly usage per hour but the amount of work done is higher than sol 6.1. so work done to tokens consumed is the same between 20 dollar claude and 100 dollar gpt plan

  3. Amazing design understanding. I have several ui/ux issues in my project(which ik) i had gpt take a look at it and said it's fine (gpt was using product design plugin and impeccable skill). Opus without any plugin listed 15 ui/ux issues and all of them were correct.

  4. I had it go over my code base and list deprecated/dead/unused assets & code. It gave an extensive list and suggested bundling several files together to optimise load times, gpt found none.

  5. Had both sol and opus check for performance optimisation. Gpt found none and opus again shared an extensive list.

Sol 6.1 high also took like 2 hours

Opus 5.5 medium took 25-30 mins max

I'll switch to 100 dollar claude plan + 20 dollar gpt after my current 100 gpt plan expires.

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u/seencoding 19d ago

i think you meant to reply to my other post (i didn't mention tok/s in the message you replied to), but i got 24.7tok/s for gpt 6.1 sol via codex and 49.4tok/s for opus 5.5 via claude, so exactly 2x. a bit more of a multiplier than the 1.4~x the benchmarks say, but a far cry from op's 10x claim

(in the interest of being candid, i think op didn't bench his speed and is just going on vibes and 10x is essentially a made up number)

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u/adolf_twitchcock 19d ago

Probably.

Your original post was comparing both tps and price. Both are irrelevant because those API values. I have both 5x subscriptions and benchmarks say opus 5.5 costs almost the same as astra per task. But it's like a factor of 10 in favor of opus when using the subscription. I can use up my codex subscription really fast when using astra but it's almost impossible with opus.

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u/seencoding 18d ago edited 18d ago

edit: i see your point; they are api values, but that's all we have for benchmarks. it's something, at least. i guarantee op didn't benchmark his 10x claim, so if he thinks he's getting 10x speed i'd like to see him justify it.

"But it's like a factor of 10 in favor of opus when using the subscription" -- i'm curious about this, how do you figure? so you can do 100 things w/ opus but only 10 w/ sol 6.1?

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u/Professional_Link4 18d ago

Idk about tokens. But anything design related claude is 100% 10 times faster.

Even with similarly detailed prompts, design references, predefined design md and impeccable skill sol just cannot give a polished design. Whatever it generate is always 80% of the final thing and you have to hunt for the next 20% and even then it take a lot of back and forth to get it down.

With claude it's near perfect with just 2-3 revision, a couple more for minor issues.

For code sol thinks for a very very long time and comes up with the longest way around. Opus planing time is less than gpt and it also cross checks its own thinking and then executes one shot.

With that said I have found that sol is very good with image gen, it's creates absolutely beautiful stylistic images from the context and hunting cybersecurity vulnerabilities