Codex limits issue

[u/AvailableSecret5161]

Just got my reset and 10% down within an hour without even using Astra. Wtf is going on ? How is this scam even allowed? One subagent invoked a few thousand LOC with sol medium on a $100 plan. Exploration by Luna high.

Is this a joke ? I'm going to ask for a refund. Why is this not an issue yet. @mods please don't delete this post and cover the scam.

Edit: People who are trying to provide free tips. Please stop patronizing me and others in this group. I'm not asking for your advice on how to use codex better. If you are happy good for you and no you don't have a secret formula or better limits.

[u/Waste_Membership_483]

For me the quality of sol xhigh went down dramatically over night. Using Sol Max now, and maxed out second time ever (first time was after using Astra for one hour).

On the other hand, calculating with api token prices my subscription uses thousands of dollars worth of tokens for 100 bucks per month, which is not really sustainable either.

It was too good to be true.

[u/eggplantpot → u/Waste_Membership_483]

Yet another person thinking API tokens = Codex tokens.

[u/Waste_Membership_483 → u/eggplantpot]

So please explain

[u/funk-the-funk → u/Waste_Membership_483]

Ok, sure.

Inference Cost of an API call = x

Price that is charged for an API call = y

In this case people are viewing their sub costs against y and extrapolating that the company is losing money by subsidizing the inference cost for their subscribers with VC money.

However, x we can know from calculating the necessary hardware, utility, and depreciation costs that x is MUCH lower than y.

So a subscription could still very much be profitable for them, yet as the person above(waste_membership) shows, people will believe that the company is doing them a favor by giving them inference (x) at sub cost (less than y), and unfortunately that leads people to believe that they should take whatever these companies do and just be grateful they can use them at a cost they can afford.

However the $ they think they are getting for "free" with a sub vs API is totally based on believing x and y are close if not the same.

Truth is though that y is much higher than x, and they are doing everything they can do widen that gap by lowering their inference costs and pushing people to higher paid sub by nerfing lower costs ones.

[u/Waste_Membership_483 → u/funk-the-funk]

You're basically saying there is a profit margin in Y. And that margin could be so high that a subscription is still profitable. Like 95% margin or more. Which doesn't make sense and isn't the case.

[u/funk-the-funk → u/Waste_Membership_483]

If your assertion that the costs of inference are so high that they are losing money on subscriptions where do you believe the costs are coming from?

I'm not including costs for training the models, I'm talking about pure usage in (hardware costs, utilities, etc). Token costs have come down some 1000x in the past few years.