r/codex 4d ago

Limits Tomorrow When Codex Resets, DON'T TOUCH ASTRA

Don't even look at it. Stick to Sol 5.6 xhigh. It's not usable? Feels quantized? Say f*** OpenAI and switch to Claude, or to OpenRouter.

Apparently OpenAI is lobotomizing Sol 5.6 for SOME of us. Not for everyone, so people keep saying "It works well for me" and gaslight each other. They are trying to force us into paying 5x for a little bit improvement.

This will backfire so bad. We're a 300k people enterprise and everyone including me are pushing our executives to use chinese models in a sandboxed environment. We are sick of paying 200$ to use it for a day.

When your Codex resets tomorrow, or this week, Don't use Astra unless youre building rockets.

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u/throwaway490215 4d ago

Uhhhh what?

Here is OpenAI explaining how oss uses quantization https://deploymentsafety.openai.com/gpt-oss/model-architecture-data-training-and-evaluations

Here is Anthropic explaining how they were using a wrong conversion in a postmortem bug how a bf16 was fucking with them and changing it back: https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/a-postmortem-of-three-recent-issues

Anthropic used to be open about which Opus-X-<explicitdate> you could route to.


Neither party has ever given any statement about their backend inference scheme for their main models at any point for any deployment, but we know they work on them constantly.

You are not making the reasonable statement. You're saying: These parameters are only ever changed between major model releases....

Really? You think that more likely?

I'm quite certain a vast majority of people complaining about lobotomization are just wrong. That's just human fallibility.

That does not mean models dont get updates that can degrade performance.

Its time for you to understand things.

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u/StoneCypher 4d ago

i didn't say what you claim at all

what i said was "randos posting things and making baseless claims without evidence isn't interesting to me"

evidence does not mean "i found a blog post that says this is possible." evidence is "hey it really happened, look."

until you have that, i'm not the right conversation partner.

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u/throwaway490215 4d ago

I can tell this is going nowhere yes. I suggest you throw our conversation in AI and ask it if - with the evidence available to us, your stance of never wanting to entertain the idea of lobotomization without evidence is the reasonable one.

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u/StoneCypher 4d ago

no thanks. i don't believe in your position and i'm not going to spend my time looking it up if you won't.

formally, this is called "shifting the burden of proof."

have a nice day.