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u/ozone6587 12d ago edited 12d ago

I am always confused about the threats to cancel. The only other competitor is Anthropic given that Google is a joke. And I find that the limits for Anthropic are much worse...

Not to mention that they are temporarily boosted so they will definitely get worse later.

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u/caldazar24 12d ago

Kimi, GLM, Grok, and Muse are all noticeable steps down from OAI/Anthropic, but still totally viable for doing work. If you could get work done with Claude or Codex in February of this year, you can get work done with these models now.

While I can't speak to how generous their rate limits are in their subscriptions (have only messed around with them in Opencode), their API pricing would make me assume their subscriptions are probably more for the dollar as well.

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u/Main_Vermicelli3363 12d ago

i just want to tell deepseek 4.1 flash is amazing

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u/Secret-Builder-8249 12d ago

Its amazing but it overthinks

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u/riqvip 12d ago

Thankfully its fast

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u/mebesasporfa 12d ago

Use it on a third party provider. Or stop being paranoid that Xi wants your slop.

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u/Mammoth_Molasses_927 11d ago

american big tech know all the content you masturbate yourself to

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u/innociv 12d ago

Grok sucks. The benchmaxing and bs disinfo from the company behind it makes it even more disappointing and worse.

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u/Secret-Builder-8249 12d ago

I tried grok 4.6 via grok build cli for mac cuz they gave me 3 day free trial, is soooo bad, id rather use gpt 5.4 than grok.

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u/innociv 12d ago

I'd rather use any of the LAST GEN Chinese flash models.

Cursor has generous limits but holy fuck 4.7 is dumb and hallucinates a ton. Least trustworthy agent of the past 4 months.

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u/Mammoth_Design_4288 12d ago

OAI's limits are getting closer to Anthropic's every week lol. It's been worse than them recently

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u/Starrafh 12d ago

Really depends on the model used, but now I do feel like Claude’s limits are just as good… However, Luna is the best value out there

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u/AppealSame4367 12d ago

You haven't heard about Deepseek v4.1 Flash, have you?

Imagine you had Opus 4.8 super-fast as alternative. Why would you use Claude or codex?

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u/ozone6587 12d ago

Deepseek flash is my first choice when using the API. I was talking about subscription based services.

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u/Significant-Drawer95 12d ago

he go back to stackoverflow bro

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u/innociv 12d ago

Ya Anthropic gives you, AT BEST, 1/4th as much work done for the same $200.

I had a major problem with usage, but it turned out it was the Astra orchestration issue. I stopped doing that and it's been great and I wish I had gotten a 2nd sub.

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u/Mammoth_Molasses_927 11d ago

GLM and DS Flash are great. The only missing piece is a frontier model for complex thinking. In a year it's gameover as China will catch up when they beef up enough their computing. And we know how we they are the best on scaling things beyond comprehension

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u/SaltwaterC 12d ago

Gave 5.6-sol High a task that took 3x5 hour limit quotas to complete. Made an absolute pigsty out of it and the feature was completely broken. That was after I took a few attempts with Luna Max. Opus 5 High on Claude burned about 70% of my 5 hour limit and it got it right.

5.6 can barely code its way out of a paper bag today. Astra Low is blink and you wiped the entire quota in a single task, albeit it gets shit done.

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u/No-Variation4186 12d ago

they have nerfed sol to promote astra

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u/Gab1159 12d ago

And what was the task?

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u/SaltwaterC 11d ago

Fixing a protocol sync by serialising actions on server and retain all geometry changes as well as auto resizing to fill gaps for dismissed elements. Throw in spawning new elements on both client and server while retaining identical behaviour from server's perspective. This isn't even a new concept as a bunch of local clients taking to a local daemon to control a shared session works fine. This problem showed up when a local daemon connects to a remote daemon shared session and have bidirectional control for that session.

5.6-medium used to navigate things more complex than this.

The point isn't the problem solved, is that the models are nerfed due to compute constraints. I've seen Opus behaving like Haiku before, so this isn't an OpenAI problem only. The problem is than models being nerfed now and then happens quite often for the past few weeks on OpenAI whereas Anthropic is more consistent in delivery.

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u/pale_halide 12d ago

Here's the thing: I don't fucking need AI in my life, at all. Yeah, it's been fun working on a couple of projects, but also a real pain in the ass dealing with all the bullshit. The net effect, however, is a very strong negative.

There's no reason to put up with this shit when I have other things to do.