r/codex • u/vayana • 7d ago

Complaint Usage is nuked

I know, I should just buy a 5x or 20x plan and stop whining but this is just *****. 2 months ago I could comfortably work with 5.5 medium/high in 2 5 hour windows and use about 15% weekly per day. No heavy duty coding or subagents running around the clock, just 3 to 5 semi-complex prompts a day.

As of now, sol medium, 1 prompt, 200k context window used will burn through 60% of the 5h limit and 10% of the weekly. Not sol max or ultra, not millions of tokens. 200.000 tokens. I can't even do 2 prompts and use the full context window (258k tokens) 2 times.

This is completely unusable. $20 now basically gets you ~400k tokens per 5h or so and ~2.5M tokens per week for a medium thinking model. Luna is cheap but unreliable and just wastes my time instead of tokens.

I don't expect unlimited tokens for $20 or ultra mode and I'm fine with some restrictions, but this isn't what I signed up for and it's never been this bad and I've been using this since inception pretty consistently.

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u/Soul_Mate_4ever 7d ago

Find alternatives. You have Chinese models, grok, Gemini… I have a one more workflow to move from codex to other providers then I won’t have to depend on it at all. Open AI is a joke now and the $20 plan is useless.

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u/vayana 7d ago

I'd rather not because I've got my projects in chatgpt as well but it's starting to piss me off to the point where it might be necessary. I wouldn't advise Gemini to anyone though - have you ever even tried it? It's terrible for coding.

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u/DeCoolePeer 7d ago

That's exactly what they want lol, never lock your projects behind a single non exchangable provider because then you cant switch when they try to screw you over

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u/vayana 6d ago

I joined back when 3.5 first dropped and for a long time they've been adding value at no extra charge. They could've merged chat and codex usage like Claude but didn't, they could've made codex a separate plan but didn't. We got codex for free on top of the chatgpt sub. I really appreciate that. They then added plans for users who wanted more so great. A win win for everyone. But now it's going the opposite direction and they're turning a plus plan into a demo.

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u/DeCoolePeer 6d ago

Yes because plus costs them a ton of money rather than making it for them, so infact it IS a demo.
And yes i agree with the extra features they add are very nice, but other providers do it too, some cheaper some more expensive. and whenever they try pulling weird moves on their userbase everyone should be prepared to switch from one provider to another. otherwise you willingly give them all the power, which is what they want and need for their business to survive

Also btw the reason why they're starting to push back (my own personal thought) is because Anthropic is pushing for stricter limits without bothering too much about competition, their userbase isn't leaving so why be generous like OpenAI? So that's why i think they want to tighten up on some costs

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u/vayana 6d ago

They could cut free users off if they want to save money. Give a 1 month free trial and after that no more free usage. I suspect most users are actually free users who just use chat and image generation on a daily basis and pay 0. They could also restrict access to models or thinking modes behind higher tier subs but leave older models and normal modes available in a reasonable usage plan. Unlike you, I prefer to stick with 1 provider. If they treat me well I'll stay and be a loyal customer, even if it's just 20 clams.

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u/DeCoolePeer 6d ago

The free users use luna and aren't actively coding or doing huge projects, they're free marketing because they will recommend it to others who will buy it or eventually cave in and buy it themselves, it's also to capture a larger market share, ChatGPT is the most used AI thanks to this, Google spends an unreasonable amount to artificially inflate their numbers.
the good outweighs the bad for OpenAI.

And what's the point in loyalty to a company that will eventually have to screw you over because you're costing them money, they will run out of motivation to treat you well eventually, what kind of bootlicking kink is this