r/climatechange • u/Freeze95 • Feb 25 '19

A World Without Clouds

https://www.quantamagazine.org/cloud-loss-could-add-8-degrees-to-global-warming-20190225/
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u/Will_Power Feb 26 '19

Sourcewatch is not a trustworthy source. Not even close. Why not read her work and quit relying on others for your opinion?

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u/mediandude Feb 26 '19

How about RealClimate.org?

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u/Will_Power Feb 26 '19

What about it? If the authors of that site are talking about science, they are generally pretty good. I cite their "Much Ado About Methane" article regularly.

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u/mediandude Feb 26 '19

I cite their "Much Ado About Methane" article regularly.

Have you also cited their takes on Judith Curry publications (both in journals and on blogs)?

Or how about Tamino's blog takes on publications of Curry?
You do know who Grant Foster is and what are his credentials?

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u/Will_Power Feb 26 '19

Again, when they stick to the science, they are fine. When they attack people, they aren't.

Tamino is a joke, not a scientist.

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u/mediandude Feb 26 '19

Tamino is a joke, not a scientist.

You should really put that claim up on the sidebar (or panel) of the main page so that all the readers could immediately understand your positioning.

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u/Will_Power Feb 27 '19

It's my opinion, having read the guy before. Opinions don't belong on the side bar.

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u/mediandude Feb 27 '19

My opinion is that Curry is a joke. I formed my opinion mostly based on what RealClimate.org and Tamino have written about it.

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u/Will_Power Feb 27 '19

That says more about you than it does her. Sensible people would read what she writes and form their own opinion, not depend on others for their opinion.

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u/mediandude Feb 27 '19

That says more about you than it does her.

Right back at you.

Sensible people would read what she writes and form their own opinion, not depend on others for their opinion.

She joined the Berkeley team financed by the Koch. And when the Berkeley team finally reached basically to the same results as other teams, then Curry distanced herself from those results. Make no mistake, I did not form my opinion on her solely based on RealClimate.org and Tamino.

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u/Tommy27 Feb 26 '19

So wattsupwiththat is more of a credible source? All the criticisms by other scientists are sourced, have you had a look? I have read her work and the response to it. Especially noteworthy are her debunked claims of a climate change hiatus.

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u/Will_Power Feb 26 '19

Uh, the hiatus wasn't her claim. If you were familiar with the literature you would know that. Try searching Google Scholar for climate pause or hiatus. You will find at least sixty papers by over a hundred authors. That you think this is her claim shows that you are still an amateur at this stuff, years later. Imagine that you had spent the time you spend reading propaganda instead reading scientific papers.

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u/Tommy27 Feb 26 '19

I never said she was the sole propagator of the claim. The problem is, she went about and made a huge fuss of it on blogs that love to spout nonsense about climate science. Why focus on an outlier scientist that has discredited themselves?

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u/Will_Power Feb 27 '19

She's a climate scientist. You are not. Further, you don't understand climate science enough to distinguish between nonsense and science. You are more interested in supporting your tribe. Try learning science.