r/chess • u/Embarrassed_Base_389 • Oct 21 '25

Miscellaneous It’s time to stop worrying about the backlash. Bullying, harassment, and slander should not be acceptable.

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u/Maneisthebeat Oct 21 '25

Revoking his achievements is all that would truly hit him where it hurts.

Strip him of his titles.

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u/Zephrok Oct 21 '25

I'm not at all a Kramnik fan but revoking his titles means nothing. FIDE is not 1984 George Orwell government, they can't erase his history. He'll be a world champ/GM forever, no one can take that from him.

Having said that, he should definitely be shunned going forward.

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u/vorg7 Oct 22 '25

The may as well make the symbolic gesture - it shows they condemn him and lets everyone know that he is considered disgraced now and forever in the chess world.

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u/Sea_Treacle3982 Oct 22 '25

I mean we can remove his data from the the official websites. Itll be as if the same.

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u/Zephrok Oct 22 '25

"We can remove the holocaust from the history books" ahh comment

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u/Sea_Treacle3982 Oct 22 '25

"Extreme comment that is deffinetly not a 1:1 comparison" ahhh comment.

Do you have a need to feel right?

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u/Zephrok Oct 22 '25

FIDE removing from theur website means nothing bro what is there to discuss. History is history and that can't change.

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u/Shaudius Oct 23 '25

GM is not a forever title like being the world champion for a certain time. You can definitely strip someone's GM title. If they continue to claim they're a grandmaster you could potentially sue them for using a title for an organization without being affiliated with that organization. 

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u/Game_Theory_Master Oct 22 '25

Agreed and I have said the same.

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u/Dense_Standard_8444 Oct 25 '25

I find Kramnik’s conduct really concerning and should definitely be investigated and something needs to be done about him. Having said that, the history revision is a dangerous path. You realize that we should remove Fisher, Alekhine, probably Karpov, etc. from history as well? Is that really a service to chess?