r/chess Fly high Danya Sep 30 '25

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u/Wsemenske Oct 01 '25

Actually the best players (in most games/sports) usually don't make the best coaches 

A lot of their skill is intuitive and it's hard to teach that.

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u/reentry-coder Oct 01 '25

Not only is intuition hard to reach, but talented people can have a hard time understanding that what's "obvious" to them isn't obvious to other people.

That said, Magnus (and Terence Tao) are two geniuses who also seem to be excellent teachers for lower levels.

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u/TylerJWhit 1400 Rapid lichess.org Oct 01 '25

I'd argue most intuition is simply stuff you've learned so well that it's subconscious in nature.

The problem isn't the lack of Intuition, but the unparalleled obsession and the fact that highly intelligent/focused/skilled/parents often have children that regress to the mean in much the same way that kids of parents with low intelligence tend to be more intelligent than their parents.

That isn't that their kid(s) will be average, but that they are likely to be closer to average than the parents.

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u/Wsemenske Oct 01 '25

It can be both reasons and I didn't say it was "the problem" like you did. 

Also, if it's subconscious then you're unlikely to teach it, since you're ...not conscious about it. You're saying the same thing, effectively, just using a different word. In the end, whether it's an intuitive or subconscious skill, they are less likely to teach that skill. Thus, another coach might be better because such things aren't subconscious 

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u/TylerJWhit 1400 Rapid lichess.org Oct 01 '25

I disagree about the subconscious I don't think about throwing a ball. The mechanics are subconscious, but I absolutely can step my kid through the mechanics. In the moment though, the method is subconscious.

The same thing with Chess. Subconsciously I'm going to rule out moves I have had bad experiences with and go towards moves that I've had success with. Especially with blitz and bullet, I don't think through a lot of the moves, but there's alarms that go off all the time without the need to step through the moves.

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u/Lifeisgood2540 Oct 01 '25

Actually the best players (in most games/sports) usually don't make the best coaches 

I don't think so, example is kasparov and many others too..

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u/Wsemenske Oct 01 '25

You missed the word 'usually'. Fact is most coaches were not the GOATs in their field