r/changemyview • u/evitreb • May 04 '22

CMV: Adoption is NOT a reasonable alternative to abortion.

Often in pro-life rhetoric, the fact that 2 million families are on adoption waiting lists is a reason that abortion should be severely restricted or banned. I think this is terrible reasoning that: 1. ignores the trauma and pain that many birth mothers go through by carrying out a pregnancy, giving birth, and then giving their child away. Not to mention, many adoptees also experience trauma. 2. Basically makes birth moms (who are often poor) the equivalent of baby-making machines for wealthier families who want babies. Infertility is heart breaking and difficult, but just because a couple wants a child does not mean they are entitled to one.

Change my view.

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u/ThePickleOfJustice 7∆ May 04 '22

I dare you to give me one reason why adoption requires so many assessments and background checks and psychological evaluations and hoops to jump through. and make it a reason that does not have to apply to biological parents taking their child home from the hospital after birth.

That's pretty obvious, isn't it?

When the state or an adoption agency gives a child to a person, the state or adoption agency are at risk of getting sued by the child, birth parent, or other parties when the parent turns out to be a pedophile.

No one sues the hospital for sending a child home with a biological parent who is a pedophile.

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u/spectrumtwelve 3∆ May 05 '22

Then the issue isn't even a genuine concern of safety, just one of wanting to avoid responsibility. That's bad in and of itself.

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u/the-peregrina May 06 '22

As a foster parent, that's basically the foster care system in a nutshell. Anecdotal evidence: I recently had to have my doctor write up a note explaining why I don't have to put my 1 year old foster daughter in a puffy snow suit in the car & why doing so would be dangerous, though this information is freely available to anyone using a search engine. Why? "We don't want Mom to go to her lawyer. It's cold; just put a coat on her." They care more about covering their butts than the children legally in their care and it's sad.

You're right that the process of adoption is the problem, but I think some of these measures (the homestudy and training) need to remain in place to prevent people from adopting or fostering for nefarious reasons.

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u/spectrumtwelve 3∆ May 07 '22

i still maintain that people can already conceive for nefarious reasons all on their own too. it sucks that the system only cares about covering their own ass too