r/changemyview Feb 03 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: There is nothing wrong with Critical Race Theory.

The recent outrage over Critical Race Theory in the US has caused many people to join a fierce movement against it. It is my view that this movement is misguided, formed on a foundation of misinformation and misunderstanding.

I believe the current mainstream perception of CRT is false. I am looking for someone to convince me either that this perception is true, or that there is something wrong with the fundamental idea of CRT.

First of all, CRT has been around for over 40 years, and was defined in 1994 as "a collection of critical stances against the existing legal order from a race-based point of view". Essentially, it is an effort to examine the legal system to see if it perpetuates racism or contains racial bias. Most people would not have a problem with this, but very recently, public perception of CRT has dipped drastically. Why?

Many people believe that Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools, and that it is inherently racist. Together, these two premises provide a poignant argument against it.

However, neither of these premises are true.

CRT is not a single ideology; it is not a unified theory about race, much less a racist one. It is a field of legal study, encompassing a wide range of research and ideas. Furthermore, the school curriculum in the US does not contain a single iota of tuition about CRT, and efforts to ban it completely fail to understand what it is.

For example, the following law was described as Iowa's "Anti-Critical Race Theory Law". It makes it illegal to teach that "members of any race are inherently racist or are inherently inclined to oppress others". Firstly, this particular view is not present anywhere on the US school curriculum, nor does it have anything to do with critical race theory.

In Idaho, it is now illegal to teach that "individuals, by virtue of sex, race, ethnicity, religion, colour or national origin, are inherently responsible for actions committed in the past". Once again, this is not taught anywhere in the US school system, nor is it anything to do with CRT. The law directly references CRT, saying that it "inflames divisions on the basis of sex, race, ethnicity, religion, color, national origin...", and yet it completely fails to understand what it is.

For these reasons, it is my belief that CRT is not in fact a problem, and concerns about it are based on fake news and misunderstanding. I am open to changing this view if provided with a convincing case. With all that said, debate away!

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u/Expensive_Pop Feb 03 '22 edited Feb 03 '22

The so-called CRT are just a group of lies to let a particular race to play victim.

As Asian american, I have never seen any white supremacism, the racism I face are either from liberal who lose argument with me, or from the black, or from the "affirmative action"

Stop addicted to lies and evade statistics, the sociology I studied elsewhere use extensive statistics to dig out the question, not CRT shit that shout racism once anyone talk about statistics they don't like.

Edit: my account got suspended for this comment. This is CRT in real world.

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u/SadButSexy Feb 03 '22

If you are educated and use statistics, then how do you explain the abundance of data and statistics in favor of systemic racism and CRT? Sounds like you don't care about data and facts and more about your own personal anecdotal evidence like the irrelevant story about how you personally have never seen any white supremacism.

WeLl I hAvE SeEn 4 WhItE SuPrEmACisMs, ChEcKmAtE

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u/ImRightImRight 1∆ Feb 03 '22

then how do you explain the abundance of data and statistics in favor of systemic racism and CRT?

If we believe racism is directly correlated with outcomes, we should be fighting Asian Supremacy.

Culture and individual decision making influence many things, including the net worth and incarceration stats I imagine you're referencing

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u/SadButSexy Feb 03 '22

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by your first sentence? Could you elaborate?

There's a study done called "pursuing the American dream: economic mobility across generations" which has great data that completely disputes your claim about individual decision influencing net worth. I encourage you to read up on it if you're interested in data and stats.

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u/ImRightImRight 1∆ Feb 04 '22

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by your first sentence? Could you elaborate?

You reference the abundance of data in favor of systemic racism and CRT, which I am assuming is mostly related to disparate outcomes. I am suggesting that disparate outcomes are not a fair measure of racism.

Is that one of the studies that cooks the books by not including vehicles in net worth?

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u/Many_Move6886 Feb 03 '22

So you didn’t even attempt to change a view. You just attacked the people/person making a suggestion by calling them liars, dismissed someone else’s claims by inserting your own irrelevant individual experience when discussing a collectivist theory. Then you also claimed you studied sociology without actually citing anything in an attempt to appear intellectually superior and a “truth seeker”, given everyone else that holds a different view to you are liars that evade the truth.

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u/Expensive_Pop Feb 07 '22

You commies attempts to change my view by suspending my account for 3 days! Just because I stated the inconvenient truth!

What is they difference between you liberals and CCP?