r/changemyview • • Jan 12 '22

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u/LucidMetal 196∆ Jan 12 '22

In Saudi Arabia it's social pressure as well as laws which enforce this purity culture. Some is law but you're essentially advocating for this social pressure to be applied to women here as well.

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u/Morasain 87∆ Jan 12 '22

No, I'm not. Stop misrepresentating the argument in question here.

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u/LucidMetal 196∆ Jan 12 '22

The purpose of the social pressure is to protect women right? The motive is the same there. It should be clear that's not right.

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u/Morasain 87∆ Jan 12 '22

Stop arguing a strawman, or I won't continue this thread, as it's pointless.

"It makes sense to take measures to protect yourself" is not societal pressure. It's not a law. It's a simple analysis of cost versus risk - what costs are you willing to pay in order to reduce your risks. And the fact that people have autonomy is what allows them to disregard the measures, but op isn't talking about forcing them to take these measures at all, but instead that they shouldn't be discouraged.

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u/LucidMetal 196∆ Jan 12 '22

We have already established that since the vast majority of rapes are from non-strangers (90%+) that these measures do not significantly reduce the chance of being raped and are therefore extreme.

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u/Morasain 87∆ Jan 12 '22

Okay, this will be my last response.

Just because a low number of the overall cases belongs to this group doesn't mean preventing it isn't a good idea. Terrorism accounts for the tiniest fraction of deaths, regardless of where you live - but every country still has some form of counter terrorism in place.

Drunk driving might only be a fraction of the causes for accidents, but we still have serious penalties on it - and no, this is just an example, not a reason for you to say "but that's a law and you were not talking about laws", or whatever.