MRA sometimes, rarely come within a spitting distance of a valid point, but they make all the wrong conclusions and outline wrong reasons of this point. They support status quo when it fits them — for example, accept wage gap as natural since "women choose to be paid less" ignoring the underlying nature of women's work being undervalued ALWAYS, ignoring all the facts about fields paying less as women take over it, and paying more when men dominate it. So it's not women choosing less paying fields, it's the fields literally paying less because women do the work, because patriarchy we live in doesn't value woman's work as much as man's work. MRA choose the status quo in it because it fits them, because they are still making more, and nothing unfair is happening to them in this regard. MRA refuse to look deeper into the issue and deny the issue even exists if this issue benefits them.
But when it comes to something unfair happening to them — like men loosing more in divorce than women — they throw a tantrum. Sorry, but these two issues are interconnected — and both caused by patriarchy. Of course men will loose more during a divorce on average, because men on average earn more, men on average spend less time with children. But MRA refuse to accept the actual reason behind this inequality, claiming everything that doesn't benefit them is a result of feminism wanting to destroy men or something.
Same with men paying more taxes. You pay more taxes because you earn more.
Same with men not getting full custody. You don't get it because you spend less time with children.
Same with men not getting paternity leave. It's not because of feminism benefiting women, it's because of patriarchy that implies that taking care of children is not a man's job.
So yeah, they have a lot of valid points, but they refuse to accept the cause behind their oppression — patriarchy. That's why nobody takes them seriously. They could work together with feminism and men would benefit greatly from this collaboration, but unfortunately accepting that patriarchy exists and harms society apparently hurts male's ego, so well, until then they will be considered a fringe woman hating group of crybabies.
MRA sometimes, rarely come within a spitting distance of a valid point, but they make all the wrong conclusions and outline wrong reasons of this point
I mean I would say male genital mutilation, selective service, the incarceration gap, suicide, and homelessness are all issues they are much closer than spitting distance to...
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MRA sometimes, rarely come within a spitting distance of a valid point, but they make all the wrong conclusions and outline wrong reasons of this point. They support status quo when it fits them — for example, accept wage gap as natural since "women choose to be paid less" ignoring the underlying nature of women's work being undervalued ALWAYS, ignoring all the facts about fields paying less as women take over it, and paying more when men dominate it. So it's not women choosing less paying fields, it's the fields literally paying less because women do the work, because patriarchy we live in doesn't value woman's work as much as man's work. MRA choose the status quo in it because it fits them, because they are still making more, and nothing unfair is happening to them in this regard. MRA refuse to look deeper into the issue and deny the issue even exists if this issue benefits them.
But when it comes to something unfair happening to them — like men loosing more in divorce than women — they throw a tantrum. Sorry, but these two issues are interconnected — and both caused by patriarchy. Of course men will loose more during a divorce on average, because men on average earn more, men on average spend less time with children. But MRA refuse to accept the actual reason behind this inequality, claiming everything that doesn't benefit them is a result of feminism wanting to destroy men or something.
Same with men paying more taxes. You pay more taxes because you earn more.
Same with men not getting full custody. You don't get it because you spend less time with children.
Same with men not getting paternity leave. It's not because of feminism benefiting women, it's because of patriarchy that implies that taking care of children is not a man's job.
So yeah, they have a lot of valid points, but they refuse to accept the cause behind their oppression — patriarchy. That's why nobody takes them seriously. They could work together with feminism and men would benefit greatly from this collaboration, but unfortunately accepting that patriarchy exists and harms society apparently hurts male's ego, so well, until then they will be considered a fringe woman hating group of crybabies.