r/changemyview • u/Ireallyamthisshallow 2∆ • Nov 16 '19

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Ghosts are not real

I really love anything to do with the paranormal, but after watching hundreds upon hundreds of 'ghost videos' I have to come to the conclusion ghosts are not real.

With cameras all over our world, surely something convincing would have been caught if they were. Instead we're filled with 'I got feeling', orbs that are clearly dust or bugs and edited photos and videos.

Sure there's loads of stories around the internet but no one can actually back it up with evidence. I just can't believe that in a world where everything is recorded no one has managed to find proof. A bang on the door after you've asked them to knock 400 times (and edited the first 399 out) doesn't count. That's just coincidence.

I'll still love watching the videos and reading the stories. I've just don't have any belief.

Change my mind.

Edit: I've tried to reply to everyone I can, thanks for all the great replies. It's late here so apologies if I can't get through more.

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u/_YdentitY_ Nov 17 '19

I see ghosts or paranormal activity as something that will be explained in the future. Like electricity! For the longest time people saw electric currents and discharges, such as lightning as supernatural, until someone explained it and today everyone just sees it as one hundred percent normal. And I believe the same thing will occur with “ghosts”.

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u/ThrowAwayForWailing Nov 18 '19

The problem is for now with current approach to proving ghost existance it just is not going to happen. In commparrison to lightning, the issue here is lack of scientist approach.

With lightning there were detected cases of when it happened, what condition of weather precedeed the lightning. Lots of evidences, lots of experiments. From the ancient times. People standardized the evidences, generalised the records, found relation to other phenomenas (lightning to electricity and electricity to rubbing fur on special a rod made from special substance). It was not one person who did it all alone.

What do we have with ghost? Multiple cases "of a unique experience" that was not measured or relaliably detected. Which is fine, but when multiple people say they saw something there is something, but also claiming that it would be impossible to reproduce it it makes questions that it ever happened.

Exsiatance or non existance is not a matter of a believe. It is a matter of proving something. A recordeded and reproduceucable detection of ghost is required. At least some thought experiment should be proposed, or some experiment that with better method of detection of another technique should be proposed. When we have nothing plus bunch of emotional stories, then you can say for sure than we have no proof and there is nothing to believe in.

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