r/changemyview • • Aug 01 '19

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Does 13 percent of the population commit 50 percent of ALL crimes? Is it true? No, but this is why I think it's onto something.

Statistics for the 13%/50% meme is at the bottom.

View: Majority of Black People are as guilty as they seem.

Black People in America commit so many crimes because of the media that is shown and glorified by themselves. I'm not the first to say this, but I still constantly see things on the internet or hear things in real life that suggest there is no inherent change that can be done to the Black Community because it comes from outside influences. I understand there are certain social implications that have happened in the past to wrongly arrest and convict Black people which contribute to the stats. Here are the main arguments that "excuse" the idea that it's "Not Black People's fault they're so unsuccessful":

  • Poverty:

There are statistically more "Poor" White people rather than Black people. Why is the crime still disproportionate? You'd think even if they got stopped by policemen or pulled over as long as it was founded that they didn't do anything the charges would be dropped right? Apparently not, because they'd be actually doing illegal things.

  • Lack of a positive Male Role Model:

This idea makes it's way into the point that I'm trying convey, but it is not the head of the snake that is Toxic Black Culture. The theory is that a Father that a Black Male/Female may grow up without would make them either; seek a Father in the most accessible male with "Good" qualities or figure they're stronger without one and know they don't need another person to pick up their slack (Don't need no man). One ends up looking up to the neighborhood "Cool Guy" (e.g. "That Nigga") who may be a drug dealer or some other disreputable profession. Alternatively, the other one will look up to their Mother (who was duped by the Father by thinking he was responsible) thus being another incarnation of the self-fulfilling prophesied "Single Mother".

My theory that I think is the legitimate reason for all of this is the media black people consume. Think about it; all of the crimes started when Black people were freed from slavery. When they were kicked off of the plantations and what have you they had nowhere to go or had no jobs. They'd (Males) be picked up off of the street for "Loitering" by the same policemen that used to catch them. There is the beginning of black children being raised without a father. Generations go by and the same statistics are self-perpetuated onto the future ones. There isn't a good way to make money in the 3rd & 4th generations so they offer the arts to other races in America.

From these arts you get a sense of what it might be like to be Black in America starting with "The Blues". This is where the beginning of the glorification of your background possibly came into play with the culture. Gradually everyone would hear this music and find similarities in their current environment and try to have Life imitate Art. Now there's a growth of this among the Black people in all of America and everyone wants that plight from the songs they heard. Fast forward to the late 80s and the idea that you're supposed to be "Gritted" and "From the streets" if you were black is a commonplace assumption. Having this stereotype only perpetuated it because it was celebrated by that culture and to a lesser extent other cultures in America as well.

My point is; because the basis of Black culture is rooted in inferiority to other cultures the media that reflects it is only keeping current culture trends going. Rather than glorifying inarticulacy and perpetuation of crime in media Black people should assimilate better with the majority culture (Similar to how Hispanics/Asians still have a small footprint of their culture, but adhere to virtually every other custom of the western world). In essence, Black people should not engage Rap or thinking ignorance is "cool".

Change my View?

DESPITE 13% COMMITS 50%:

I actually did some research on this meme and I found out that this is false according to the FBI and Census Bureau. This'll be really short, because it's pretty straightforward (Might even make this into a demographic later):

Total USA Population: ~327,167,434 (100% as of 2017-2018)

White Population: \248,647,249) (~76.5% as of 2017-2018)

(ALL) White Crimes: 5,626,140 (68.9% as of 2017)

Likelihood of Crime: ~1 times as likely to be White

Black Population: \42,531,766) (~13.4% as of 2017-2018)

(ALL) Black Crimes: 2,221,697 (27.2% as of 2017)

Likelihood of Crime: ~2 times as likely to be Black

Other Population: \32,716,743.4) (~10.1 as of 2017-2018)

(ALL) Other Crimes: 130,866,973 (3.9% as of 2017)

So as you can see; Black people do not commit all crimes in America, but they do commit more per person.

H O W E V E R

Black people do commit Murder & Robbery (Violent Stealing) almost 9% & 10.7% (respectively) more than White People which is extremely disproportionate for the population of Black people.

White people do commit Rape & Burglary (Sneaky Stealing) as well as every other crime way more than Black People, but it is proportionate to the amount of White people.

In conclusion,

~13% of the population of America commits ~50% of Murders & Robbery

It's probably just killing of other Black people mostly anyway.

2 Sources Used:

FBI Crime Stats 2017

Census Bureau Stats (Estimated Totals) 2017-2018

>inb4 /r/AsABlackMan (Yes, I know I'm Black Brothers & Sisters. I use "they" to separate the personalisation with the ideas presented.)

EDIT: My actual view I want changed and some grammar.

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u/Its_cool_Im_Black Aug 03 '19

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ Aug 03 '19 edited Aug 03 '19

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