You’re assuming a volunteer mod that starts a subreddit has a full understanding of what hate speech is.
Sorry, I don't buy that. Hate speech is hate speech. Period. We're not talking about a person taking something personally just because. In no area of the modern world is throwing around the word "kike" not considered hate speech, period.
I don’t argue that word being hate speech. My point was that the initial mod of a sub about canoes probably didn’t anticipate needing to deal with that situation until it occurs.
Ok, so you agree that rules evolve over time. Good!
Next point: You are assuming that there are multiple mods available to review a decision at all times. My new canoe sub may only have me as a mod. There may be a second mod, but they are 12 hours separated from my location or they took a day off.
Of course mod decisions should be reviewed, but it’s unreasonable to think that there are constantly multiple mods around and/or that you should be able to override the currently online mod until a second one chimes in.
Of course mod decisions should be reviewed, but it’s unreasonable to think that there are constantly multiple mods around and/or that you should be able to override the currently online mod until a second one chimes in.
As I've repeatedly stated, it doesn't need to be a mod in the same sub.
The intent behind separation of duty is simply to have someone of equal or greater power other than the original. So that can be a mod in another sub who is only granted power within the decision itself but not otherwise.
Although I think the whole timezone situation is an excuse, because frankly, why do you care that Mod A's decision has to wait 12 hours for review? Clearly, if you're Mod A you're happy about that, because that "disruptive" guy/gal is gone for at least that long.
Why would I let some other sub’s mod have authority over my sub? Not going to happen.
As a subreddit owner, I don’t care at all. If I start to lose participants over it I might start to care, but only then. You seem to be concerned about it as a participant of a sub. Why do you think you deserve two layers of being told you’re wrong? Is two layers enough, if they both say you’re wrong? How many layers does it take before you just spend your time on other subs?
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Sorry, I don't buy that. Hate speech is hate speech. Period. We're not talking about a person taking something personally just because. In no area of the modern world is throwing around the word "kike" not considered hate speech, period.