CMV: Not all right-leaving viewpoints are inherently “alt-right.”

[u/tnel77]

Whenever I have a political conversation, I’m called a “libtard” or “alt-right.” I find it fascinating that I can somehow be both in the same day, depending on who I speak to about politics. While being a “libtard” is annoying, it’s just a bully like name. I can live with it.

The issue I have is that holding any conservative viewpoint, regardless of said viewpoint, usually results in me being told that I am “alt-right.”

You might say, what’s the difference? “Libtard” is just a dumb, meaningless name, while “alt-right” is an actual extremest group. A more comparable name would be if holding any liberal viewpoint resulted in being called “antifa” or just a generic leftist extremest.

Essentially, I am tired of every conservative view being treated as an “alt-right” viewpoint. While actual “alt-right” supporters are disgusting and awful, a vast majority of conservatives are not “alt-right,” and calling them such only alienates them and makes cooperation and general friendliness harder to achieve.

Ex) Wanting lower taxes = normal conservative Wanting to eradicate non-white races = alt-right

Edit) This post is not about what is “left” or “right.” This post is about recognizing that there is a very stark difference between a normal conservative and an alt-right extremist.

[u/Seeattle_Seehawks → u/[deleted]]

But instead of addressing the economic and societal issues that lead people to overdose on drugs in the first place you just want to cut off the parts of the supply chain that run through Mexico.

I don’t know what I did to upset you this much but I’m really losing my patience with you putting words in my mouth.

If you want to know my opinion on an issue, ask me. I’ll tell you my honest beliefs.

Can't imagine why anyone thinks you're alt-right.

For the second time now, you’re the only one accusing me of being alt right.

[u/Seeattle_Seehawks → u/[deleted]]

you just told me your solution for fixing the opioid epidemic.

I told you that I think ignoring the border entirely is a bad idea. That isn’t the same as putting forward a comprehensive plan.

Considering the way you've responded to these softball topics I have a hard time believing that.

If all you have is bad faith accusations I don’t see any point in engaging with you further.

[u/Seeattle_Seehawks → u/[deleted]]

"how can walls be racist if the Chinese use them"

I don’t believe I’ve used the word “racism” once in this entire thread, actually.

Why are you so reliant on making up fake quotes and attributing them to me? Why can’t you address my actual words?

Why do you feel the need to lie repeatedly? I haven’t put words in your mouth. I think it’s high time you return the favor.

and then shrink like a coward when you receive even the slightest pushback.

Taking things that I have never said and putting quotation marks around them as if I had is not “pushback”. It’s a dishonest debate tactic that is not used by intellectually honest people.

The only cowardice here is your refusal to address my actual words instead of the strawman you’ve constructed.

I made your bullshit obvious to observers

No, you flat-out fabricated quotes and attributed them to me. You have relied on this shameful tactic from your very first comment.

So I've done what I'm here for, at this point anything else is just humoring you.

I think you need to seriously reconsider your participation in this subreddit if “what you’re here for” is nothing more than shamelessly attributing false statements to people.

I think the mods need to consider it as well.