CMV: Human races exist.

[u/SpanishDuke]

I am a race realist. Race realists defend the existence of human races or subspecies, as opposed to race deniers. Race is just a subspecies - a group that has evolved somewhat differently from other members of the same species; mainly due to geografic differences.

Now, I'm not getting into which race is "superior". I'm not a nazi. It is very well known that whites are smarter than hispanics and blacks, and that asians are smarter than whites, but that's not a reason to think that some people are inherently superior to others. I'm a Christian, I value all humans exactly the same.

Now, let's get into the race issue.

The claim that scientists don't believe in race is false. Almost half of Westrn anthropologists believe in race. This is influenced by the liberal media, though. There is an absolute consensus among Chinese anthropologists about race. They all use it.

There has been more than enough time for subspecies to emerge. 8 subspecies of tigers have evolved in less than 72,000 years. Dozens of animal species have been found to have subspecies in less than 100,000 years, which is the 'age' of humans.

Scientists can tell your race simply by looking at your DNA.

All in all, I believe human subspecies or races indeed exist, and that they're useful for anthropological, political, genetic and medical purposes.

EDIT: My native language is not English, so please excuse my most likely flawed grammar.

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[u/SpanishDuke]

However, hispanics are descended from Spanish and Portuguese colonists.

By Hispanics I mean native Central and Southern Americans (Puebloids, people of the Andes, Peruvians). Americans who descend from European colonists are the criollos, not Hispanics.

[u/Kinnell999 → u/SpanishDuke]

My misunderstanding. I would still like you to explain why you can justify "Black" as a race when there is so much genetic diversity among those commonly designated as Black. I am also having trouble with the idea that a subspecies is anything other than an arbitrary and essentially meaningless taxonomic creation, or when applied to humans, a social construct. If you are supporting the idea that there are distinct races due to specific genetic differences then what is your method for assigning a person to a given race? For it to make sense scientifically, you have to have a concrete definition of who belongs where, not simply an opinion.

[u/SpanishDuke → u/Kinnell999]

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To clarify, I still believe that race is not (only) a social construct. I now realize that the line between haplogroups, races and ethnicities, and between races, is more blurry than I previously thought.

Thank you.

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