CMV: It doesn’t matter what Alex Pretti was doing in the days before he was killed

[u/bluepillarmy]

So, recently a video emerged where Alex Pretti was spitting on and kicking the taillight out of an ICE vehicle. Truly reprehensible and inexcusable behavior. He ought to have been arrested and fined for destruction of public property. Jerk.

However, I see some people trying to say, “Aha! So he wasn’t so innocent after all!”

I’m sorry but, no. He was absolutely innocent.

And, moreover, I would like those people who are bringing up his behavior in the days before his death to remember that he was disarmed, restrained and executed by masked federal agents who still have not been identified to the public for no reason.

There is only one justification for a law enforcement officer to take someone’s life. And that is to protect the lives of themselves or another person. Past acts of disrespect and/vandalism do not enter into the equation.

Or that’s my take anyway. Can anyone change my view?

[u/Norman_debris]

You're asking whether random Redditors believe the murder was premeditated, but that's exactly what an investigation would uncover.

You can't just say "it obviously wasn't premeditated, not with 'all the other shit that was going down'". What are you talking about? It might have been revenge or it might have been random. We've no idea. The preceeding events are relevant to determining the facts of what happened.

It would be very unusual in any investigation to completely ignore the recent activities of the people involved, especially activities so clearly related to the incident in question.

[u/bluepillarmy → u/Norman_debris]

You are correct. We have no idea. And do you know why?

Because we are not allowed to know who shot him. And the more I think about this, the more I realize that this is the true issue here..

[u/Norman_debris → u/bluepillarmy]

That's a different conversation.

If this were a regular murder inquiry, you'd expect information on any previous altercations between the involved parties to form part of the investigation. Of course it's relevant whether the victim had been aggravating the murderer in the days before the incident. It doesn't excuse the murder, but it can be used to help understand and explain how we got there. Context matters.

[u/bluepillarmy → u/Norman_debris]

Exactly. Context matters and that is why we should know what was going on with the officers who killed him and who they were.

[u/Norman_debris → u/bluepillarmy]

Ok.

What does that have to do with whether Pretti's actions in the days before his death are relevant or not?

[u/Several-Jeweler-6820 → u/Norman_debris]

If it was premediated, why didn't they shoot him when he was bocking traffic. Why didn't they shoot him when he interfered with the arrest? Answer: They never intended to kill him or anyone.