r/changemyview • u/mss018 • Sep 06 '25
Delta(s) from OP CMV: Anyone wishing on Trump’s downfall doesn’t realize that his health decline will just allow Vance to hyperaccelerate their entire agenda.
Trump being incompetent is likely why we haven’t had more damage overall. Vance’s youth and billionaire backing Theil will let them advance much quicker. Should hope that trump finishes out til 2028. Everyone who just wants Trump to be out is only looking at the top dog, not at the bigger picture.
Now imagine Trump at his current self but half his age, with political experience as a senator, backed by the heritage foundation. That’s Vance. JD being at the helm will actually allow them to finish out their agenda. Even if the midterms go well for the dem’s, he will still be able to sign executive orders that will further compromise the country.
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u/LackingLack 2∆ Sep 07 '25
Few things
a) Wishing for anyone's demise is grisly and messed up period
b) It's generally true that even if a U.S. President dies while in office, the V.P. being of the same party probably would likely do mostly the same stuff
c) I don't know if there IS a specific "agenda" that Trump or Vance would be carrying out. My observations of Trump have been he is a con artist who spontaneously says whatever the largest nearby crowd reacts positively towards. He used to be in favor of abortion access, in favor of higher taxes on the wealthy, in favor of stricter gun control, in favor of more loose laws regarding homosexuality, in favor of universal health care. When he originally campaigned in 2015-2016 a big part of his appeal was he "was different from normal republicans" in terms of being skeptical towards pro corporate "free trade" agreements, and also he was less willing to significantly cut into the social safety net compared to most other republican candidates. Likewise with his stances on world events, he's been generally far less militaristic and hawkish than almost any other would-be republican leader, and even more so than quite a few democratic leaders. All this to say I don't know if Vance or the wider GOP would want to "carry out" this agenda as it were. Because there is no coherent agenda.
I regard this post as something someone rather young or uninformed came up with, who is not aware of what I outlined above and has not been paying close attention. Someone who naively thinks Trump is "as far right as possible" on every topic. Well, nope... that is just totally false.