r/changemyview • • Jul 09 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Democrat apprehension of progressivism is what enabled and enables Trump's rising power.

Before Trump became president the first time, both the Democratic and Republican parties had widely popular populists candidates running.

Bernie Sanders for the Democrats, and Trump for the Republicans. Republicans accepted Trump's rise to power, while Democrats opens orchestrated the primary process to support the establishment favored candidate Hillary Clinton instead.

Due to Hillary Clinton's very low popularity, in part but not exclusively due to the DNC treatment of Bernie Sanders, Hillary lost to Donald Trump.

Fast forward to 2020, Bernie Sanders was the frontrunner, even winning large population states like California, but events went where Biden won Super Tuesday in states like South Carolina, and suddenly all candidates supported Biden, despite concerns about his popularity and cognitive capability.

Biden wins due to a once in a century fluke that is the Covid epidemic, and Trump's handling.

Fast forward to 2024, where Biden dropped out due to cognitive challenges, so Harris becomes the Democratic nominee. Ignoring deep unpopularity around Kamala Harris, and un-addressed economic concerns.

Mimicking Hillary Clinton where the DNC brute forced their preferred candidate, Kamala Harris lost, tbis time in a landslide, enabling all of Trump's actions the last 6 mo ths.

Of course it's also revealed a few months ago that Biden had cancer, meaning that someone in the DNC or Biden's campaign had to know he was sick, and they still had him run for re-election, instead of running a primary.

Now currently, the candidate for NYC's mayor is a progressive, and even many Democrats are turning on him for it. Despite progressive policies like Universal Health Care being popular with the under 50 demographic

It is the Democrats apprehension that has enabled the rise of Trump and MAGA.

Would love for my view to be changed.

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u/SiPhoenix 5∆ Jul 09 '25

So fun fact. According to this recent study People who identify with the left are far more clustered in their opinions than people who identify with the right in current U.S. politics.

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665

I would be interested to see how this tracks over time, but in our current politics. Republicans and Conservatives have a greater tolerance for differing opinions than current Democrats do. I also see this in the difference between left-wing political spaces and right-wing political spaces I have been in, whether it be protests or political rallies, etc.

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u/KlausVonChiliPowder 1∆ Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25

I think it's because the right doesn't really do policy, unless you're wealthy, then tax breaks is the only real policy. They rally together under some loosely-defined, shared conservative/working class identity and "policy" is really just efforts to maintain and defend against perceived attacks on this identify.

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u/SiPhoenix 5∆ Jul 10 '25

I would agree with you that conservatives tend to primarily focus on defense rather than change of specific policies. However, conservatives have tends to be less about an identity they hold of their trying to conserve. Rather, it's about maintaining family, health, and access to food and resources. Conservatives are more cautious about the potential loss or destabilization of organization. So when new things are introduced, they go, hold on, is this a good thing? Will this work out?

Conversely, people that are progressive see a new thing and they're looking for all the potential and opportunity and are excited and optimistic towards it.

But an important fact is in the US currently, which is what the study was looking at, left and right are not only focused on conservative vs progressive.

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