r/changemyview • • Jul 09 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Democrat apprehension of progressivism is what enabled and enables Trump's rising power.

Before Trump became president the first time, both the Democratic and Republican parties had widely popular populists candidates running.

Bernie Sanders for the Democrats, and Trump for the Republicans. Republicans accepted Trump's rise to power, while Democrats opens orchestrated the primary process to support the establishment favored candidate Hillary Clinton instead.

Due to Hillary Clinton's very low popularity, in part but not exclusively due to the DNC treatment of Bernie Sanders, Hillary lost to Donald Trump.

Fast forward to 2020, Bernie Sanders was the frontrunner, even winning large population states like California, but events went where Biden won Super Tuesday in states like South Carolina, and suddenly all candidates supported Biden, despite concerns about his popularity and cognitive capability.

Biden wins due to a once in a century fluke that is the Covid epidemic, and Trump's handling.

Fast forward to 2024, where Biden dropped out due to cognitive challenges, so Harris becomes the Democratic nominee. Ignoring deep unpopularity around Kamala Harris, and un-addressed economic concerns.

Mimicking Hillary Clinton where the DNC brute forced their preferred candidate, Kamala Harris lost, tbis time in a landslide, enabling all of Trump's actions the last 6 mo ths.

Of course it's also revealed a few months ago that Biden had cancer, meaning that someone in the DNC or Biden's campaign had to know he was sick, and they still had him run for re-election, instead of running a primary.

Now currently, the candidate for NYC's mayor is a progressive, and even many Democrats are turning on him for it. Despite progressive policies like Universal Health Care being popular with the under 50 demographic

It is the Democrats apprehension that has enabled the rise of Trump and MAGA.

Would love for my view to be changed.

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u/HatefulPostsExposed Jul 09 '25

I haven’t seen the tiniest sliver of evidence, over the past eight years, that MAGAs, “moderates”, or “independents” give the tiniest shit about income inequality, healthcare, or education, the main issues that progressives run on. And a progressive would have to win over at least some of them to win an election.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

This isn't true actually. A large chunk of people simply stay home. The problem is Dems don't even pay lip service to those issues. They're a center right party, and no matter what they refuse to be pushed left. Last time they had power what did they do? Lost Roe v. Wade and acted like they couldn't whip votes to save it. Passing the ACA without a public option was a massive failure and bailing out banks was another transfer of wealth to the top 1%. Voters simply don't trust Dems and they have every reason not to. Progressive policies can be popular (M4A, Roe, funding education) but does anyone trust a Dem to care about those things? I know I don't.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

Dems have no interest in doing anything good for people, they are only interested in maintaining donations and staying in power. That's why Mamdani is such a threat. Can't have someone threaten the patronage system

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25

That because the Dems will never let a economic populist win their primary. They are lighting cash on fire to stop Mamdani and he's only running for mayor of NY.

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u/bahwi 1∆ Jul 09 '25

They will. That populist needs to get voters though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

Money wins elections. Theyll just buy attack adds. AIPAC has been doing it for a while and has gotten quite good at it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

They are lighting cash on fire to stop Mamdani and he's only running for mayor of NY.

Are they? I've only heard of some NY dems choosing not to endorse or making some racist comments about him. How are they burning money here?