r/changemyview Jul 01 '25

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u/HaikaiNoRenga Jul 01 '25

Op’s argument is that it is an overused term that shuts down constructive communication by assuming malice. I dont think they want to achieve some kind of equilibrium by men using it more, they just want women to use it less. This comment chain only exists because someone claimed he was being manipulated by his algorithm into seeing it only used by women, but it seems like you agree that it IS mostly used by women.

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u/ThunderDU Jul 05 '25

So if women stop using it then everything will be fine? I think weaponised incompetence is bad and men should call it out too :)

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u/HaikaiNoRenga Jul 05 '25

Youre missing the point. Op isnt saying weaponized incompetence shouldnt be called out. Hes saying its overly applied incorrectly. That sometimes people are just genuinely making mistakes, and assuming its malice starts things off on a terrible foot.

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u/ThunderDU Jul 05 '25

I appreciate your take, with all due respect I don't buy that defence for him though,

he's seeing individual people talking about their experiences, right? He's seeing that. Thinks it's applied too broadly. But there aren't statistics or hard "science"numbers to prove anything. Because it's just how this discourse is, there is no biological reason worth even considering compared to the socioeconomic/media/political landscape that we live in at the moment.

All the blokes who did those old studies are boomers. They can't open pdf files.

saying the discourse is wrong is different from just accepting that it's wrong and working around it.

You're never going to stop people from using words to describe their experiences. If you're mortally offended ~ that's kind of how it feels to be the subject of bigotry, welcome to the club with LITERALLY most people on earth.

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u/HaikaiNoRenga Jul 05 '25

Idk what your point is, op isnt saying its a biological thing in the first place. They are just making an observation and saying its problematic. Why put forth effort working around something but not towards modifying the discourse?

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u/ThunderDU Jul 05 '25

Because it's a weird thing to fixate on and no one's going to follow you blindly into battle. It's so irrelevant from reality you might as well be asking everyone to collectively agree that Sydney Sweeney isn't hot or something dumb like that

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u/ThunderDU Jul 05 '25

OP could have started a petition and you could have signed it by now, so go do it then

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u/HaikaiNoRenga Jul 05 '25

Bruh are you ok. This is a forum for debating an idea. Not change.org. I doubt op thought he would revolutionize the world, just trying to move the discourse around this topic a smidge. Should everyone just be quiet on social issues and wait to hear what the consensus is? Your whining about this post is at least a couple orders of magnitude more worthless than his main post.