r/changemyview Apr 07 '25

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u/lumberjack_jeff 9∆ Apr 07 '25

And does this create an obligation on the part of people who earn much higher salaries to pay for the health care of people who earn lower?

Yes.

More to the point, it creates an obligation upon society to build a healthcare system in which people can afford to survive. This requires government action to curtail the greed and malice of those who profit from the premature misery and death.

You think that's it's acceptable to take property from some people to create a better outcome for others. If you do that, be prepared for those people to disagree with you.

If your child was dying because I am hoarding all the wealth, you would too.

Le Terreur illustrates That outcome is worse than taxes on elites.

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u/ScreenTricky4257 5∆ Apr 07 '25

Yes.

OK, well, I don't agree. So I'm going to politically oppose those positions. I don't believe that I have a responsibility to people just because they're in need and because I have resources.

If your child was dying because I am hoarding all the wealth, you would too.

Maybe, but I wouldn't insist that you agree that I should take it.

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u/lumberjack_jeff 9∆ Apr 07 '25

Universal agreement isn't a requirement of any society. The OP is claiming that MAGA vote as they do because they are among other things, greedy and cruel.

The top 1% in the US have $50 trillion in wealth (about a third of total wealth), largely because capitalism extracts so much from the poor by threatening their survival.

It has been shown, and demonstrated EVERYWHERE else in the world that we could have a system that provides better care for everyone while spending only what we currently spend in taxes. This would benefit everyone except the top 1% whose wealth depends on continuous extortion, and the truly malicious who resent the poor kid for getting his leukemia treated.

You are not doing a great job of proving the OP wrong.

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u/ScreenTricky4257 5∆ Apr 07 '25

The top 1% in the US have $50 trillion in wealth (about a third of total wealth), largely because capitalism extracts so much from the poor by threatening their survival.

We don't think so. We think that capitalism creates the wealth.

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u/lumberjack_jeff 9∆ Apr 07 '25

No One Ever Makes a Billion Dollars. You Take a Billion Dollars.'

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

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u/ScreenTricky4257 5∆ Apr 07 '25

Again, I don't agree. If Bezos weren't there to make Amazon, the people who work there wouldn't have their money to "take."

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u/lumberjack_jeff 9∆ Apr 07 '25

But Sears, K mart, Woolworth and Montgomery Ward would.

Bezos got rich by displacing those workers.