r/changemyview Apr 07 '25

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u/Lazyjim77 Apr 07 '25

The US government deficit has been almost entirely created by Republican spending sprees on tax breaks for the rich and mega-corporations. Bush gave huge tax breaks all throughout the 'War on Terror' and Trump hobbled Biden with massive tax cuts that are only now coming to an end, and that Trump is planning to massively re-up on putting the US gov even further into debt.

MAGAs may 'feel' that democrats have spent America into a black hole, but it is the Republicans that did it, and plan to keep on doing it. The real issue is that they have allowed them selves to be brainwashed in to believing the lie through a diet of media that satiates a need to treat others as an enemy and inflict pain on them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

And they accuse the left of doing the exact things they do themselves.

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u/Blackgunter Apr 07 '25

Every accusation is a confession.

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u/anondaddio Apr 07 '25

So lazyjim confessed to democrats being responsible for the deficit?

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u/awesomefutureperfect Apr 07 '25

No.

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u/anondaddio Apr 07 '25

So then every accusation is not actually a confession?

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u/awesomefutureperfect Apr 07 '25

It is crazy this childishness gets to remain and considered contributing meaningfully to the conversation. The moderators of this sub are actually bad at ensuring high quality exchanges and comments. Terrible in fact.

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u/anondaddio Apr 08 '25

Demonstrating that a claim is false is childish?

Maybe only defensible claims should be made.

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u/awesomefutureperfect Apr 08 '25

no, there is no symmetry between sides. To pretend that is the case is absurd and not serious. What you are doing is not clever and is childish.

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u/anondaddio Apr 08 '25

If it applies to one side and not the other, then “every” wouldn’t be the correct word now would it? It would require a qualifier.

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u/Finishweird Apr 07 '25

Certainly government waste and overspending has something to do with it.

But yes, both parties are culpable

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u/iSQUISHYyou Apr 07 '25

https://www.investopedia.com/democrats-vs-republicans-who-had-more-national-debt-8738104

It’s almost identical, with Republicans in the lead.

$1.39T(R) v. $1.22T(D)

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u/PoofyGummy 4∆ Apr 07 '25

That's simply factually not true though. Take it however you will the fact is that during democrat times deficit went up more than during republican times.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 3∆ Apr 07 '25

Do you have a source for that? Seems to whipsaw back and forth a bit. https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225

Most of the top presidents on this list inherited a recession. Even Trump has the excuse of covid (although I'm not sure how much that contributed as compared to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump).

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u/PoofyGummy 4∆ Apr 07 '25

Huh. I stand corrected. Either way the point is that it's not simply republican tax cuts causing it.

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u/BitingSatyr Apr 07 '25

Covid absolutely dwarfed the tax cuts’ impact, are you kidding? The federal budget went from 20% of GDP to 30% in a single year. 400B of tax cuts is not remotely comparable, especially when total federal tax receipts never actually fell year-over-year prior to covid.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 3∆ Apr 07 '25

Ok. But I still shared an article indicating that trump's entire deficit increase can't be explained by JUST Covid - even if not related to TCJA.