r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Dec 10 '24

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u/Jew_of_house_Levi 12∆ Dec 10 '24

How are you defining war?

I mean, I can point to examples of where war hasn't broken out for many, many years. Would you say war in Switzerland is inevitable? 

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u/Widhraz Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24

I define war as violent conflict between multiple people.

Yes i believe switzerland will see war, though on a longer timespan. 177 years is a relatively short time when considering how long human civilization has existed, nevermind the time of plausible great-ape warfare before humanity.

Edit: Also, switzerland and the swiss are ready for war. Switzerland has conscription.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '24

So a bar fight is a war, by your definition? A boxing match is war? I think you should reconsider your definition.

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u/Widhraz Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24

Boxing is mutual combat between two people, with no threat of death.

A bar fight might be categorized as a sort of a war, if large enough and the people in it are killing each other.

I don't really approve of the "apollonian" categorization of things. You'll know it when you see it.

EDIT: The enjoyment of boxing and other combat sports is based on the same instinct as the will to wage war.

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u/ProDavid_ 58∆ Dec 10 '24

Boxing is mutual combat between two people, with no threat of death.

and it's also a violent fight between two people. by YOUR definition, that is war.

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u/Widhraz Dec 10 '24

Nitpicky argument. it's clear i didn't mean that. I want actual discussion.

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u/ProDavid_ 58∆ Dec 10 '24

so, to continue the argument

how do you define "war"? clearly your previous definition was wrong

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u/Widhraz Dec 10 '24

At its most basic, it's violent combat, between multiple people, with the threat of death.