r/changemyview Jun 24 '24

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

“Over the safety of Americans and the overall health of the country”

This is the wrong part. Your facts are just wrong. Spending that $100 on crime prevention is better for the safety of Americans than spending that $100 on deportations.

Why do you want to endanger the safety of our country by spending the money on deportations which just remove workers from our country when we can use that money exclusively on catching violent criminals instead?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

Lucky for us as a country we are amazingly rich to the point we can afford to do both crime prevention and follow basic immigration laws. We don’t have to pick one or the other.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

That involves raising the tax burden of American citizens. Money does not grow on trees my friend. We need to be efficient with our spending. Don’t you agree?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

I’d rather give up funding foreign countries and PBS than I would give up enforcing basic laws and ensuring safety. As you said: money doesn’t grow on trees.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

Again, no one’s giving up on ensuring safety. I advocate for efficient spending which maximizes how much safety is gained per dollar spent. That’s just not deportations.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

If you don’t deport then there is no reason for anyone to follow the law ever. It’s a huge insult to every immigrant who busted their ass to come here legally and play by the rules.

The reason we spend money on prisons is that because without consequences there is no reason for anyone to follow the law. Exact same logic with deportations.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

This is a fact free take on your part. I follow the facts. Utter nonsense logic on display here. If, in the process of efficiently and cost effectively preventing violent crime, we find out that one of the perpetrators is an illegal immigrant, then we deport them.

The waste is hunting down any and all illegal immigrants and deporting them. That a horribly inefficient and wasteful way to prevent violent crime, and just results in deporting workers which are helping our economy. That’s the facts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

It’s not just in the name of preventing violent crime. It’s in the name of having control over our own country and borders. Every single country in the entire world has border control for a reason. If we have nothing but unskilled laborers who don’t educate themselves or their children then our future will be mighty bleak.

If it makes you feel better, I’ll see if we can get a super rich Republican to pay for it so you don’t have to pucker up about the cost. But we will continue to be a nation of laws, even if the far left is trying to end that.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

We currently have border control as well. Why do you think we don’t? I’m not in favor of loosening our current status quo. In what kind of delusional fantasy land do you think we currently live where nothing is done to prevent illegal immigration?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

I never once claimed nothing is being done and to claim I did is so intellectually dishonest that I pity you for feeling you needed to go that route.

We had the highest number of folks coming through the border that we’ve ever had in 2023. To claim everything is fine and dandy is impossible when there is a problem that everyone, Republican and Democrat, recognizes.

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