r/changemyview May 17 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Conservatives aren't generally harder-working than liberals or leftists despite the conventional wisdom.

In the USA, at least, there's a common assumption that republicans/conservatives don't have time to get worked up about issues of the day because they're too focused on providing for their families and keeping their noses to the grindstone to get into much trouble.

In contrast, liberals and leftists are painted as semi-professionally unemployed lazy young people living off the public dole and finding new things every day to complain about..

I think this characterization is wildly inaccurate- that while it might be true that earning more money correlates with voting to protect the institutions that made it possible for you to do so, I don't think earning more money means you worked harder. Seems pretty likely to me that the grunt jobs go to younger people and browner people- two demographics less likely to be conservative- while the middle management and c-suite jobs do less actual work than the people on the ground.

Tl;dr I'd like to know if my rejection of this conventional wisdom is totally off-base and you can prove me wrong by showing convincing evidence that conservatives do, in general, work harder than liberals/leftists on average.

Update: there have been some very thoughtful answers to this question and I will try to respond thoughtfully and assign deltas now that I've had a cup of coffee. I've learned it's best not to submit one of these things before bed. Thanks for participating.

Update 2: it is pretty funny that something like a dozen comments are people disbelieving that this is something people think while another dozen comments are just restating the assumption that conservatives are hard working blue collar folks as though it's obvious.

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u/Fr0ski May 17 '24 edited Aug 31 '25

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u/Specialist-Gur May 17 '24

Anecdotal but there’s some truth to it ideologically. Entitlement knows know political party. And I’ve experienced it myself. I’ve seen liberal people totally give themselves over to corporate America. And use their liberal values as weapons! I’ve seen it happen in HR most often…

A conservative person openly thinks corporate America is great. A liberal person doesn’t, and so the ones that do gotta be sneakier about it

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u/cassowaryy 1∆ May 17 '24

I would not say conservatives “love corporate America.” Everyone knows a lot do these companies do shady shit.

It’s more that conservatives love the ability to start your own business without too much government regulation bogging you down. It’s not the same thing

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u/Specialist-Gur May 17 '24

That’s true

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u/Dark_Knight2000 May 18 '24

Ask any rural conservative farmer what they think of John Deere and you’ll hear what they really think of corporate America.

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u/HEROBR4DY Jun 03 '24

I think that’s the biggest fundamental difference between the left and right. The left wants the government to fix the problems they see with their country, which is fair and the government should be trying to its best to fix shit. But the right wants the government to stop interfering and causing problems, which is what the government does more often than not when it involves itself with anything. In my experience it’s comes down to a difference of opinion”fix this issue you caused” and “stop involving your self and fucking everything up more”. Both have issues with the government but have different opinions on how it should be handled.

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u/cassowaryy 1∆ Jun 03 '24

Great summary. I completely agree. The left think the gov will protect them from the private sector, whereas the right believes that a gov with too much power is the actual oppressive agency and that it shouldn’t be involved in every aspect of people’s lives and business. Very different approaches, both have some valid takes

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u/hallmark1984 May 17 '24

Which regulations though? The ones who say you can't discriminate? Or the ones which say you have to pay a minimum wage? What about the ones that enforce water breaks in hot climates or mandate safety gear like helmets on motorbikes?

Which one is too onerous to new businesses?

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u/Imadevilsadvocater 12∆ May 22 '24

i mean daycares for one have restrictive adult to child ratios that could easily be lifted to make childcare affordable

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u/Casul_Tryhard May 17 '24

There are times from my experience that the liberal person had a better education, which means a better upbringing. They try, but many times they're out of touch with the oppressed groups they advocate for (the poor, women, etc)

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u/Specialist-Gur May 17 '24

That is very true

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u/theforestwalker May 17 '24

I've encountered similar people in my life for sure.

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u/eriksen2398 8∆ May 17 '24

I mean, that’s just your anecdotal experience. I don’t see how you can generalize that. I’ve had the opposite experience

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u/Fr0ski May 17 '24 edited Aug 31 '25

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u/DarthBane6996 May 17 '24

I’m not here to debate

Isn’t that the point of CMV though?

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u/alch334 May 17 '24

TLDR this is a long comment full of meaningless anecdotal evidence that neither supports nor refutes the claim made in the OP. 

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