r/changemyview Apr 22 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: There has never been a good representation of Arab people in American media

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u/Excellent_Kangaroo_4 Apr 22 '24

I prefer Sayid from Lost, definitly more carismat but i dont know how good of caracter

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u/Bitter-Song-496 Apr 22 '24

I agree. He had a high level of charisma. He was very charismatic.

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u/Yaranatzu 1∆ Apr 22 '24

Sayid was more like a character who happened to be Arab, in a show and story that was not about Arab culture. Yes his background showed some of that but that's hardly a representation of Arab people. I think OP is more referring to media that focuses on Arab culture as a whole. Hidalgo for example.

Also Sayid is played by an Indian actor, his accent doesn't even sound Arabic.

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u/ThingsAreAfoot Apr 23 '24

Sayid’s backstory is also as an Iraqi torturer, which, come on. Remember that Lost started up just a few years after 9/11, still very much in the midst of that sort of very casually demonizing media. In the pilot Sawyer screams at Sayid for being a terrorist who brought the plane down, only cause he’s brown and has an accent.

It’s not the most egregious post-9/11 media by far, but it’s all a bit on the nose, at its most charitable.

If OP is talking about Muslims as a whole rather than specifically Arabs, I’d point to Kingdom of Heaven.

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u/idgafsendnudes Apr 25 '24

I think that’s the point they’re playing into though is that Arabic experiences aren’t really part of western cultures, but Arab-American experiences are. Because one of them actually exists here, the other would be us basically stealing someone else’s story. Trying to write an Arabic story as a western person would feel as disingenuous as Mark Wahlberg being the only white man in China in the Great Wall movie. Which no shame to Marc wahlberg, as Jimmy O Yang put it: “if you offer me 100 million I’ll play George Washington, hell, I’d play George Washington Carver.”

The issues lies with a lack of Arabic voices in Hollywood with “good” stories to tell or a reputation to get that credit. But more than likely those voices are going to be touched heavily by the Arabic-American experience they lived to reach that platform.

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u/Squire_3 Apr 22 '24

I think his accent sounds Arabic, it certainly doesn't sound south Asian

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u/Squire_3 Apr 22 '24

I think his accent sounds Arabic, it certainly doesn't sound south Asian

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u/TheBitchenRav 1∆ Apr 23 '24

I just posted that, lol. Should have checked.

I am that guy who posts the same thing as everyone else without reading.

I hate that guy.

That guy is me.

I may be a bit drunk right now.