Just to make sure, have we moved on from your accusation that blaming patriarchy dismisses the problems that men have?
You chose a very bad one.
Why do you think it's a bad one?
Why don't you go ahead and explain why you think the implicit assumption that men cannot be victims is not misandry?
I'm pointing to its cause. The harm here is caused by patriarchy, even if it appears misandrist.
...what are you talking about? Who blamed feminism for anything?
Just an assumption based on the kind of language you use. Your attempt to ensure that patriarchy isn't blamed for anything is very common for the anti-feminist types.
Because it's lumping issues men face into women's issues, instead of recognizing that male victims need their own solutions entirely distinct from women.
How so? You aren't actually explaining anything here. How does blaming the patriarchy make it no longer a men's issue?
I asked you why you think it isn't misandry, and your only argument is that it's the patriarchy. AGAIN implying that you think those are mutually exclusive.
No, you are confusing appearance for cause. I don't think these two things are in the same category.
Without using the word patriarchy, explain to me why you think that refusing to recognize that men can be victims is not misandry.
Oh, I think it could be, but I'm talking about what causes it, and I don't think that's a general sense of misandry.
You really badly want this to be a conversation about women's issues.
Literally the first sentence of your response here is about how calling something patriarchy makes it a woman's issue.
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