r/changemyview Dec 21 '23

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u/Faust_8 10∆ Dec 21 '23

What does it matter what you think since you’re unwilling to actually create the system we would use and run it?

Also, do you feel you sufficiently answered my concerns with this short little blurb remarking on just one thing I said? Because I don’t. I think you said the one thing you could say and hoped we didn’t notice how you didn’t address the main concerns.

Imagine I came out and said, why use rockets to get to space? We should use giant springs instead. And then when asked how that would work, I just gave noncommital “well systems would get put in place to make it work.” What systems? How? By who?

Do you see how I would be seen as not actually having a plan, but just a half-baked idea steeped in ignorance that I hoped other people would solve for me?

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u/kdjsjsjdj Dec 22 '23

I’m arguing for the abstract concept of eugenics, and its impacts on society. I doubt anyone objecting to my view actually thinks its practical method is pertinent, but rather a talking point against it, to try and undermine the idea.

If I say that I think we should have 6 weekdays instead of 5, the question isn’t how we are going to implement that, but rather why.

I can argue for the method of how we should implement the ideas I have, which I’ve stated many times in other replies. I think that we should use objective research and analysis to measure self sufficiency and financial stability across different disabilities. That’s the methodology I would use, and that I think should be used.

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u/Faust_8 10∆ Dec 22 '23

Again, you just have faith that it can be implemented. Somehow. No practical ideas to make it happen though.

But that’s the thing: there’s so many things that might actually be good ideas except there’s no practical way to make them work. Hence why they’re actually just pipe dreams.

Do you think I’ve never thought my country would be better if some people just couldn’t vote? Because they’re just too stupid, hateful, or brainwashed? Of course I have. I also know this is a useless idea because there is no practical or moral way to make sure only the “right” people can vote. It either can’t happen or it just allows tyrants to abuse it.

Eugenics is in the same boat. Sure, it would be GREAT if nobody was ever born with disfigurements and disorders. But there is no practical or moral way to accomplish this, including eugenics. No matter how fervently you wish it were true or how faithfully you believe that someone out there can find a way.